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Old 12-14-2015, 05:44 PM   #621
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Anyone with young children, this will be tough to watch.

Footage of two kids screaming for their mom moments after an air strike in Syria. No word if they found the mother or not.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2399226/vi..._campaign=2014

i'm just gutted watching this.
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:06 PM   #622
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There were big factors in turning away refugees in the late 30's, people play the anti-semitic race card and that was part of it but reality was the country was near broke from the great depression with 30% unemployment rates.
What a terrible reason to send people to their death.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:55 PM   #623
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What a terrible reason to send people to their death.
I'm pretty sure the concentration camps were not a thing yet at that time. The death camps came even later. Hindsight is 20/20.
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I'm pretty sure the concentration camps were not a thing yet at that time. The death camps came even later. Hindsight is 20/20.
Germany in the 30's wasn't a nice place to be Jewish.

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At their annual party rally, the Nazis announce new laws that make Jews second-class citizens and revoke most of their political rights. Further, Jews are prohibited from marrying or having sexual relations with persons of "German or related blood." "Racial infamy," as this becomes known, is made a criminal offense. The Nuremberg Laws define a "Jew" as someone with three or four Jewish grandparents or who is a practicing Jew. Consequently, the Nazis classify as Jews thousands of people who have converted from Judaism to another religion, among them even Roman Catholic priests and nuns and Protestant ministers whose grandparents were Jewish.
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We don't even have to go back to the 30s to see Canada keeping undesirables out of the country. Racial immigration restrictions to keep blacks out of Canada were in place and enforced until 1962. So Trump's proposed policies aren't anything new, and Canada isn't all sunshine and lollipops when it comes to this sort of thing.
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Old 12-15-2015, 09:54 AM   #627
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Germany in the 30's wasn't a nice place to be Jewish.



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Not saying it was. My comment was directly related to "sending people to their death".
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Not saying it was. My comment was directly related to "sending people to their death".
Sorry, I misunderstood you post.
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:05 AM   #629
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We don't even have to go back to the 30s to see Canada keeping undesirables out of the country. Racial immigration restrictions to keep blacks out of Canada were in place and enforced until 1962. So Trump's proposed policies aren't anything new, and Canada isn't all sunshine and lollipops when it comes to this sort of thing.
Haha, dude I get the point your making, but you're comparing 1962 to 2015. Different times by a country mile. Saying "we don't have to go back to the 30's to see it in Canada" and then going back over 50 years doesn't serve the argument well.
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We are still not much different if we have a problem accepting refugees.
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Haha, dude I get the point your making, but you're comparing 1962 to 2015. Different times by a country mile. Saying "we don't have to go back to the 30's to see it in Canada" and then going back over 50 years doesn't serve the argument well.
Canada supported Apartheid South Africa well into the 1980s.
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I'm pretty sure the concentration camps were not a thing yet at that time. The death camps came even later. Hindsight is 20/20.
The Concentration Camps started in the early 30s. Dachau started in 1933 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp). When it opened it was mostly for political prisoners, but also housed alot of jewish, gypsy, homosexuals, communists and general criminals. The special Jewish areas started up after Kristallnacht in 1938 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht)

The Death camps did come later, but these concentration camps were not a nice place.
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Not saying it was. My comment was directly related to "sending people to their death".
I believe Canada did take in some Jewish people. But sending away people in boats did send many to their death assuming they didn't survive the luxury of Dachau.
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Disgusting.

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Old 02-09-2016, 03:02 PM   #636
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I'm sure Syrian passports are incredibly high-tech and difficult to forge.



Seems legit.
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Well this is ####ing heartbreaking. Certainly gives you some perspective on refugees.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, and maybe it was covered, but story in the Star this morning about how many of the refugees Canada took in are being charged for the travel and medical expenses to get here - up to $10,000.


https://www.thestar.com/edmonton/201...overnment.html


I get it from a taxpayer point of view, but telling a bunch of desperate people "Welcome to Canada!" and then handing them a bill when I would assume they don't have that kind of money seems harsh.
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Yup, this has been a practice in Canada for forever.

We came to Canada in 1992 during the Balkan wars as refugees. It ended up being something like $6000 for the four of us. Adjusted for inflation, that's $9,456.91, so about the same.

We did have a certain number of years to pay it off (via a payment plan) and they didn't demand it all at once. I think there was a 1 or 2 year grace period before payments were due. I do remember us paying it off and it feeling like a big f#####g deal.

It pretty much covered things like our airfare and the cost of some of the paperwork and health testing?, etc, from what I can recall, but I was pretty young so I could be wrong.
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