That tweet is from 2010. Hopefully he was being sarcastic or has grown up since then.
Yeah, I tend to give a bit more leeway when the person in question is in their 20s or 30s and you can chalk it up to just being young and dumb, it's a little more embarrassing for some one in their 50s.
He's now claiming it may have been sarcasm, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
EDIT: And before any of the "cancel culture" hysterics come in here, I'm not saying the dude should lose his job. An apology and explanation is perfectly sufficient.
I like her a lot. She was on The Daily podcast a day or two ago and she's so well spoken, articulate and principled. I don't like her policy stances, but at least she's rational and doesn't bend the knee. Would be so cool and good for the States if Dems and Republicans could argue based on policy and not on reality. Captain Obvious, I know, but it's still a breath of fresh air to listen to a Republican and disagree with them without thinking they're a repugnant human being.
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It’s also worth keeping in mind Democrat sensibilities around immigration have shifted dramatically in the last decade or so. Speeches Obama made on the topic years ago would bring down a firestorm of outrage today.
“We cannot continue to allow people to enter the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked”
“those who enter our country’s borders illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of the law.”
- 2008 Democratic platform
“immigration reduces the wages of domestic workers who compete with immigrants”
“the fiscal burden of low-wage immigrants is also pretty clear.”
“We’ll need to reduce the inflow of low-skill immigrants.”
- Paul Krugman, 2006
“When I see Mexican flags waved at proimmigration demonstrations, I sometimes feel a flush of patriotic resentment. When I’m forced to use a translator to communicate with the guy fixing my car, I feel a certain frustration.”
It's all stupid. Let's go find some tweets from 10 years ago and attack the guy. Online fake outrage syndrome is ridiculous.
Yes, and it's really pick and choose based on narrative and agenda. So any appointee to anything has to be a perfect human being, no jokes, sarcasm or mistakes.
I mean, I could easily find articles about so-called anti-immigration.
There's President Biden who was against taking in Vietnamese immigrants after the war in 1975.
This article was written when she was a candidate, the idea that she was against sanctuary cities. but now that she's VP, it's all okay. At some point in time, the idea of not taking in people or deporting undocumented Americans became racist which it wasn't in 1975 or 2008. Attitudes and times change, we can't judge something many years ago without context.
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The 2008 Democratic platform referred to illegal immigration three times. The 2016 platform zero times.
What changed, legally, in that span?
Probably nothing. Folks just realized that illegal immigration is not that big of a deal. 3 times in a platform is as close to not being mentioned as one can get. It clearly was a very minor priority in the platform in 2008. It was not a priority at all in 2016. Not every public policy issue makes it into a platform.
Is there a clearly articulated platform for immigration from any factions of the Democratic party these days? Everyone is pretty much in favor of DACA. What have they settled on for other current illegal immigrants? Just let them stay in a don't ask/don't tell under the table fashion? And not really let any new ones in? I'm pretty much an open borders guy, but I don't really see too many democrats taking that stand. Just letting them stay for their cheap under the table labor and not giving anything like health care doesn't seem like a great policy.
Is there a clearly articulated platform for immigration from any factions of the Democratic party these days? Everyone is pretty much in favor of DACA. What have they settled on for other current illegal immigrants? Just let them stay in a don't ask/don't tell under the table fashion? And not really let any new ones in? I'm pretty much an open borders guy, but I don't really see too many democrats taking that stand. Just letting them stay for their cheap under the table labor and not giving anything like health care doesn't seem like a great policy.
When Trump came down that escalator and called Mexican's rapists. The Democrats immediately had to take the other side.
THe real Democrats sticking point is, Can you promote mass immigration and greater economic redistribution but not assimilate? After all, assimilate and melting pots is a dirty word, it's microaggression and systemically racist.
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You're totally right. Over an 8 year period, society's attitudes and ideas shifting is completely bizarre.
I didn’t say it was bizarre. But if you want to get into the details of what exactly happened and why (the declining influence of labor in the Democratic party, affective polarization vs Republicans, etc.) then give the two articles I linked to a read.
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