[News] With the 21st overall pick Flames select C Mark Jankowski

[Love]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I don't know if you understand how the cap works. The Flames have Monahan on a value second contract. It appears likely that he will outperform his 6.375 million per season for the next 6 years.

Tavares will likely cost between 9 and 11 million a year for 7 years. It is unlikely that he would outperform that contract.

And on top of that you are suggesting that we add a defensive prospect and something else to that deal.

9M for an 80 point elite forward? Sounds like a steal to me

[Love]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Oh and Tavares hasn't had a single point in 6 straight games.

Oh wow six games!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Love

9M for an 80 point elite forward? Sounds like a steal to me

80pts twice in an 8 year career. Tavares is great but to suggest Monahan++ is horrible for the Flames. Adding Tavares is a yes for me but not at the expense of Monahan

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think teams have plans based on need, not just a line that goes to the NHL that forms at the back of the room.

If any of Monahan, Backlund or Bennett get hurt than he would be obvious, but I have a feeling that he would aslo get the call if any of the top 5 wingers get hurt (I say 5 because right now there seems to be one guy that goes 3rd line to 4th line to out of the lineup currently)

I agree, except "need" could be necessitated by a lack of quality on the current team or poor results. For example, lets say the Flames lose today, and then lose another two or three...

I think Bennett has been ok, certainly no reason to give up on him. On the other hand Versteeg and Ferland have clearly been below par and can be improved on. If their performance continues to be unimpressive, it has a similar impact to an injury and I believe management will make a move to Jankowski and move Bennett to the wing.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

80pts twice in an 8 year career. Tavares is great but to suggest Monahan++ is horrible for the Flames. Adding Tavares is a yes for me but not at the expense of Monahan

His career points per game is would put him at an average of 76 points per 82 games played. Monahan has never been close to that once. And that's also despite playing with a lot of "meh" players over the years. Put him with Gaudreau and he probably hits at least 85 points. Probably more.

[Machiavelli]

Any guesses as to what their "plan" is for this guy? I thought they had one. Frustrating, because they could really use him

[GoJetsGo]

I love the way that Tavares has lead the Islanders to the cup or cup finals so many times through his singular dominance.

It's almost like there's a whole list of other TEAM components that comprise perennial cup contenders.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Any guesses as to what their "plan" is for this guy? I thought they had one. Frustrating, because they could really use him

My guess will be that we will see him called up last this year (December) or in January - and then he'll stick from there.

[Ryan Coke]

Still don't support icing less than your best team. That is an organizational fail, and to me the developmental excuse is just that. Jankowski, by the teams own admission, is ready.

Tonight F Hamilton is playing, and there is absolutely no reason he should be playing over Jankowski, in either league.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Any guesses as to what their "plan" is for this guy? I thought they had one. Frustrating, because they could really use him

I would guess that he has been told he will be up with the team as soon as they are able to shed some bodies. The Flames are clearly not content to send players back through waivers at this point for whatever reason.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by codynw

His career points per game is would put him at an average of 76 points per 82 games played. Monahan has never been close to that once. And that's also despite playing with a lot of "meh" players over the years. Put him with Gaudreau and he probably hits at least 85 points. Probably more.

74pts but that is still impressive. You don’t trade a 23 year old who scored 58pts last year with 6 years left on his deal at $6.5M plus multiple other assets for a 27 year old that we have to pay $8-$12M per season until he is 36.

I wouldn’t want to trade Brodie for Burns for the same reason

[Bingo]

Every day I look into this topic and every day I see Jankowski being mentioned as a replacement for Freddie Hamilton or Tanner Glass.

He's not coming up until there's room in the top 9.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Every day I look into this topic and every day I see Jankowski being mentioned as a replacement for Freddie Hamilton or Tanner Glass.

He's not coming up until there's room in the top 9.

You make room in the top 9 by moving Sam Bennett to the wing and bumping Ferland to the 4th line with Stajan and Brouwer. Send Glass or Hamilton to the AHL. Seems pretty straight forward to me?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

You make room in the top 9 by moving Sam Bennett to the wing and bumping Ferland to the 4th line with Stajan and Brouwer. Send Glass or Hamilton to the AHL. Seems pretty straight forward to me?

Glass is a role-player, and nobody else on the roster can play that particular role. Hamilton seems to be on the roster as a package deal with his brother. Clearly the Flames' management does not think sending either of them down is an option at this point.

[CliffFletcher]

This is what I can't figure out. Did the Flames have no intention of having a roster spot available for Jankowski to earn? Or did they hold out that possibility, but something changed?

If the former, then that's a pretty disappointing approach by management. If the latter, then what, exactly, changed?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

If the former, then that's a pretty disappointing approach by management. If the latter, then what, exactly, changed?

Jagr and Glass happened. If either of those guys were not on the roster, I suspect Jankowski would be up and Stajan playing wing.

It seems to me like Glass is playing that time-honoured role, the Coach's Pet Potato. Potatoes can't score, check, or skate, but they give everything they've got every shift, such as it is. If any of the good players can't seriously outplay Glass on a given night, they have earned a royal tongue-lashing.

When Dave King was coaching the Flames, Kevin Dahl was the pet potato. He was basically an AHL-quality defenceman, but he was the first guy to actually block a shot when the rest of the players were too high and mighty for the job. After that, he had a safe NHL job until King was fired.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I've never heard the term Pet Potato. But I like it.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

This is what I can't figure out. Did the Flames have no intention of having a roster spot available for Jankowski to earn? Or did they hold out that possibility, but something changed?

If the former, then that's a pretty disappointing approach by management. If the latter, then what, exactly, changed?

There was that rumour from a legit source that Brouwer had been traded. Maybe that fell apart at the last minute and screwed things up?

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

There was that rumour from a legit source that Brouwer had been traded. Maybe that fell apart at the last minute and screwed things up?

It wasn't a legit source, though

[Vulcan]

What I saw in training camp was that Jankowski only played at centre. There was a spot or two open on the wing but Mark wasn't given that opportunity for whatever reason.