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Old 06-29-2018, 12:25 PM   #481
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So because the geographic disparity is different, racism didn't manifest itself.

But it's the same as the south.

Pick one.

Or are you suggesting, contrary to pretty much all evidence that tighter integration breeds acceptance, that if we were all closer the racism would just explode? Or is it only when the communities are close together but separated. So they live close by, but aren't integrated. You know, like segregation, in the South.

Just some odd posts.
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Old 06-29-2018, 01:55 PM   #482
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It's about the same, the difference is the targets of racism (Natives in AB) are segregated and of a lower population size than the targets in the south.
Ya, no.
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I'm saying there is less proximity in Canada (also due to geography and population density) so the general disdain for Natives in Alberta has less chance to manifest itself and isn't top of mind on the day to day, unlike say the exposure level the average Texan or Arizonian would have.
Haha thats quite the bold assumption that if more Albertans came across more natives on a day to day basis everyone would be more racist. Brilliant.
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Haha thats quite the bold assumption that if more Albertans came across more natives on a day to day basis everyone would be more racist. Brilliant.
Not more racist, more outwardly racist.

Sorry if you think Alberta doesn't have a racism problem when it comes to Natives.

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So because the geographic disparity is different, racism didn't manifest itself.

But it's the same as the south.

Pick one.

Or are you suggesting, contrary to pretty much all evidence that tighter integration breeds acceptance, that if we were all closer the racism would just explode? Or is it only when the communities are close together but separated. So they live close by, but aren't integrated. You know, like segregation, in the South.

Just some odd posts.
I'm saying you don't get drive by racism in Alberta like it occurs in the US to the same degree, but the under-the-surface feeling is equal to what those in the South show their, uh, neighbors.
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I mean it's cool if you guys prefer to pretend that Alberta is some sort of enlightened province, but there's a huge blindspot here for Natives that is pretty gross.
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Not more racist, more outwardly racist.

Sorry if you think Alberta doesn't have a racism problem when it comes to Natives.



I'm saying you don't get drive by racism in Alberta like it occurs in the US to the same degree, but the under-the-surface feeling is equal to what those in the South show their, uh, neighbors.
Yeah, you can't just paint this province as the same as the southern US because you've decided to make this assumption about under the surface racism that somehow doesn't show itself.


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I mean it's cool if you guys prefer to pretend that Alberta is some sort of enlightened province, but there's a huge blindspot here for Natives that is pretty gross.
Yeah, no one is saying the province is perfect, so not sure what you're going for here. You're the one who compared the US South and Alberta as equal in this regard.
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Not more racist, more outwardly racist.

Sorry if you think Alberta doesn't have a racism problem when it comes to Natives.



I'm saying you don't get drive by racism in Alberta like it occurs in the US to the same degree, but the under-the-surface feeling is equal to what those in the South show their, uh, neighbors.
I have a strong feeling you are confusing apathy with racism.
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I don’t think it’s just Alberta.

This is what happens when one segment of the population is given preferred treatment over another people are going to forum biases.
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I don’t think it’s just Alberta.

This is what happens when one segment of the population is given preferred treatment over another people are going to forum biases.
Who are the one's getting preferred treatment pray tell? Because it sure as hell isn't First Nations people. Not in any way, shape or form.
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Who are the one's getting preferred treatment pray tell? Because it sure as hell isn't First Nations people. Not in any way, shape or form.
What would you call thoes billions of dollars we pump into the reserves? How about that they don’t pay income tax while living in a reserve
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What would you call thoes billions of dollars we pump into the reserves? How about that they don’t pay income tax while living in a reserve
People of all ethnicities are eligible to receive tax payer funded services and subsidies even if they don’t pay taxes.
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I mean it's cool if you guys prefer to pretend that Alberta is some sort of enlightened province, but there's a huge blindspot here for Natives that is pretty gross.
Compared to who and where?

I'd wager there are more places in the world Alberta could give lessons to on tolerance and racial integration than there are that could teach Alberta about those things. A lot more.
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Compared to who and where?

I'd wager there are more places in the world Alberta could give lessons to on tolerance and racial integration than there are that could teach Alberta about those things. A lot more.
Yeah, when it comes to any minority that isn't a Native.
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Compared to who and where?

I'd wager there are more places in the world Alberta could give lessons to on tolerance and racial integration than there are that could teach Alberta about those things. A lot more.
If you take 2 countries with abysmal human rights records and consider one to be a little less awful than the other, suggesting that the “less” awful country could teach the other how to improve their record doesn’t give the “less” awful country a pass for their record.
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If you take 2 countries with abysmal human rights records and consider one to be a little less awful than the other, suggesting that the “less” awful country could teach the other how to improve their record doesn’t give the “less” awful country a pass for their record.
Are you saying Canada is a country with an abysmal human rights record?
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Are you saying Canada is a country with an abysmal human rights record?
Not at all
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I mean it's cool if you guys prefer to pretend that Alberta is some sort of enlightened province, but there's a huge blindspot here for Natives that is pretty gross.
Assuming that negative attitudes towards a group that has seperate legal status are based on their race and not their status is a pretty big blindspot in itself.
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Yup. Exactly a product of setting.
The quote they used to illustrate was something like 'They were no people there. Only Indians'.
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Another incident. The people who posted the video said a woman who lived across the street from where they were doing landscaping work walked over and started insulting them.



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...625-story.html
Man, that video has me all kinds of uncomfortable


This is a really gross world we live in.
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