It sure seems an odd way to legalize it. If you live in a rental for all practical purposes it will still be illegal. Can't smoke at home, can't smoke outside.
I’m fine with allowing landlords to decide if they want to allow smoking/vaping or growing in their own units. Consumption of marijuana isn’t a protected right, neither is the cultivation; so no one’s rights are being trampled. Smoking/vaping is also not the only way to consume it and other methods would not be disturbing to other residents.
If it really is such a huge deal like people are claiming, then the market will adjust to reflect the desires of renters.
Except you can smoke in public, which is far worse. It makes no sense.
And in public you can just not stand there and breath the second hand smoke. Being forced to inhale second hand smoke in your own home doesn’t have that option.
I agree that they should ban smoking in public for the same reasons. That they haven't done so yet doesn't change the fact that they should do so for marijuana.
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It sure seems an odd way to legalize it. If you live in a rental for all practical purposes it will still be illegal. Can't smoke at home, can't smoke outside.
It’s moot anyways. Smoking weed in public isn’t enforced now and it’s illegal. I doubt there’ll be any increased diligence to enforce when it gets legalized. If it’s anything like Vegas, which bans it in public, you may see police ticket at first to discourage. Now it’s not a big deal. People openly smoke right on the strip. At most cops will ask people to put it out. Way too much work to actually ticket people when it’ll be so widespread.
Plus I think vaping will be the go to. It’s hard to distinguish from ecigs and produces almost no smell.
Banning smoking in public seems reasonable for the same reason as banning in multifamily. Not sure the odors off of vaping if similar to nicotine then it wouldn't be a big deal.
Vegas has similar rules. People vape everywhere, can't smell it at all, this is likely so people don't rip huge bong loads on Prince's Island in the middle of summer.
The health risks of second-hand smoke are vastly overstated. The early alarming study that spurred much of our political response to smoking has been superseded by studies showing little or no increase in heart disease and lung cancer from exposures to second-hand smoke
There is a small increase in negative health outcomes for people who cohabitate with heavy smokers for decades. There's no demonstrated effect on neighbours in a multi-unit building, let alone occasional exposure to second-hand smoke walking down the street or at a park. The dosage makes the poison, and the degree of exposure in those situations in miniscule.
However, among women who had never smoked, exposure to passive smoking overall, and to most categories of passive smoking, did not statistically significantly increase lung cancer risk. The only category of exposure that showed a trend toward increased risk was living in the same house with a smoker for 30 years or more. In that group, the hazard ratio for developing lung cancer was 1.61, but the confidence interval included 1.00, making the finding of only borderline statistical significance...
- Journal of the National Cancer Institute
Prohibitions and restrictions on smoking are an effective public health measure only insofar as they deter people from smoking or taking up smoking altogether. The notion that they protect non-smokers is not borne out by research.
So the only reason to ban smoking of vaping pot on multi-unit dwellings is to deter people from taking up smoking pot. Which seems a weird goal to pursue for a substance that we're legalizing and legitimizing. And if it's the smell that irritates people, then just persuade people to vape instead of smoke. Which seems to be the way pot consumption is going anyway.
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Cliff you’re missing two key reasons. Ruining property. No one will want to live in a building if the units and all the hallways permanently reeks like smoke. I find this is more true for cigarettes but weed smell doesn’t just instantly dissipate. And if you’re selling, no one will want to buy your unit if it stinks and all the common areas stink. Even if you aren’t selling it justifies banning inside just for the annoyance it causes homeowners. Virtually all condo bylaws include stipulations you can’t have excessive odours emanating from you unit that could cause issues for other unit owners.
The other would be short term health issues. People with breathing problems, asthma, allergies etc may find their issues exacerbated by the smoke. That’s justification enough.
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Except you can smoke in public, which is far worse. It makes no sense.
And in public you can just not stand there and breath the second hand smoke. Being forced to inhale second hand smoke in your own home doesn’t have that option.
I would happily ban smoking in public too now that vaping presents an acceptable substitute.
I would happily ban smoking in public too now that vaping presents an acceptable substitute.
Thing with public is there’s no good reason. It’s public space. If something around you is bothersome, just don’t stand there. No one can force you to inhale smoke the way you might be forced to do so in your own home.
I don’t know if just not liking it is justification.
Thing with public is there’s no good reason. It’s public space. If something around you is bothersome, just don’t stand there. No one can force you to inhale smoke the way you might be forced to do so in your own home.
I don’t know if just not liking it is justification.
The problem typically isn't standing around people who are smoking, if it was then yes I would agree with you, just move somewhere else.
What drives me crazy is when I'm following someone down the sidewalk and they decide to light a cigarette and then I get a whole face full of nasty. Or walking down 17th ave and having to walk through the cloud of smokers in front of any bars (the Ship comes to mind).
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What drives me crazy is when I'm following someone down the sidewalk and they decide to light a cigarette and then I get a whole face full of nasty. Or walking down 17th ave and having to walk through the cloud of smokers in front of any bars (the Ship comes to mind).
You need a fan, or something you could set up in the beltline to blow the smoke away from the crowds.
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A little something my company put out today in celebration of 4/20. It's time to get rid of stigmas and stereotypes around adults using cannabis responsibly.
The problem typically isn't standing around people who are smoking, if it was then yes I would agree with you, just move somewhere else.
What drives me crazy is when I'm following someone down the sidewalk and they decide to light a cigarette and then I get a whole face full of nasty. Or walking down 17th ave and having to walk through the cloud of smokers in front of any bars (the Ship comes to mind).
Not so long ago every pub, restaurant and casino was full of smokers. It's been a big shift to mere sidewalk annoyances.
I'll support weed use in any area you guys see fit if the other impairing substance that is legal and for adults only is treated the same way.
on the street in public with your weed? I want to be able to have my cup of rye, too.
in a city park with your joint? I want to have my beer. smoking on your blanket at an outdoor festival? I want to have wine on mine.
then i'll also be ok for you to smoke in your rental apartment, just like I can have my vodka in mine.
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Please no to public smoking of marijuana. It’s bad enough when some people don’t change or launder their clothes after smoking it, I don’t want my clothes infused with that smell.
Please no to public smoking of marijuana. It’s bad enough when some people don’t change or launder their clothes after smoking it, I don’t want my clothes infused with that smell.
Edibles in public; smoking somewhere else.
The smoke doesn’t stick to anything. If you smell it, you’re smelling fresh product. It’s not like cigarette smoke.
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