Asking somebody to not smoke or vape indoors is asking to start a knife fight or get murdered?
Is Vancouver truly so bad that this the expectation now, I guess the courts will just shrug their shoulders and be forced to let the murderer go?
Blaming the dead victim is an interesting take.
Not what I'm saying, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. Starting an altercation is usually more than just words or making a request. It's starting a physical fight.
I don't know if this is what happened, but if you start a fight, there's a chance it won't end well as you don't know the mindset of a total stranger.
I just want to add that the comment I made about the victim challenging the guy to the fight is 100% hearsay at this point. I haven't found any kind of link for that. So probably not worth treating that as fact at this point.
Edit: only info about what happened beforehand is coming from Reddit:
Never trust a fight to be fought squarely and have a beer afterwards. Too many loose cannons willing to take cheap shots, use weapons, and go into full Rage virus mode.
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I used to frequent this Starbucks a lot when I worked downtown.
Sounds like the victim had an unfortunate altercation with a loser rather than the random stranger attacks the city has had over the last little while.
Can't believe this moron carried a blade around in case he needed to act tough at a coffee shop. Should lock him up for life, but who knows with our justice system.
Sad state of affairs in Downtown Vancouver in general, it's become quite a cesspool over the last few years.
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I used to frequent this Starbucks a lot when I worked downtown.
Sounds like the victim had an unfortunate altercation with a loser rather than the random stranger attacks the city has had over the last little while. Can't believe this moron carried a blade around in case he needed to act tough at a coffee shop. Should lock him up for life, but who knows with our justice system.
Sad state of affairs in Downtown Vancouver in general, it's become quite a cesspool over the last few years.
There's a whole thread here about people who carry a knife with them. I think it's kinda weird and unnecessary, unless you use it for your job all the time.
I used to frequent this Starbucks a lot when I worked downtown.
Sounds like the victim had an unfortunate altercation with a loser rather than the random stranger attacks the city has had over the last little while.
Can't believe this moron carried a blade around in case he needed to act tough at a coffee shop. Should lock him up for life, but who knows with our justice system.
Sad state of affairs in Downtown Vancouver in general, it's become quite a cesspool over the last few years.
2nd degree murder in Canada is like 2 years...
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I have always taken the approach that you never confront or criticize a stranger because you just never know who is crazy or who is bringing a knife to Starbucks on a Sunday afternoon. If something illegal or dangerous is going on, then call the police. If it is a life or death situation, I get that intervention might be warranted. But in cases where it is a bylaw issue or just general anti-social behaviour that is annoying, it's just not worth it. If someone is dispalying anti-social behaviour, there is a pretty good chance that the person is not going to respond in a reasonable fashion to your criticism.
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I have always taken the approach that you never confront or criticize a stranger because you just never know who is crazy or who is bringing a knife to Starbucks on a Sunday afternoon. If something illegal or dangerous is going on, then call the police. If it is a life or death situation, I get that intervention might be warranted. But in cases where it is a bylaw issue or just general anti-social behaviour that is annoying, it's just not worth it. If someone is dispalying anti-social behaviour, there is a pretty good chance that the person is not going to respond in a reasonable fashion to your criticism.
You're right but it's sad we have to think like this in Canadian cities.
I guess you better never honk at anyone, tell someone off for littering, parking in handicap spots, or doing anything inappropriate whatsoever, even if it's directly impacting your wife & child like this case.
Best to always walk away and let it be someone else's problem, sadly.
You're right but it's sad we have to think like this in Canadian cities.
I guess you better never honk at anyone, tell someone off for littering, parking in handicap spots, or doing anything inappropriate whatsoever, even if it's directly impacting your wife & child like this case.
Best to always walk away and let it be someone else's problem, sadly.
I think it is just a function of Canadian cities getting larger and more crowded. Bigger cities means more crime in general. There are other factors that play in of course, like wealth disparity, cost of living, personal space, etc..., but I think those are all things that can be affected by population size. The more people you cram into a small area, the nuttier things get. Toronto is also mess lately with the amount of random violence.
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A week after the Starbucks stabbing, there was a random throat slashing on a Surrey bus at 9:30 am. The victim was in life threatening condition, but they are now saying he will recover. Apparently it is being investigated as an ISIS terrorist attack.
A week after the Starbucks stabbing, there was a random throat slashing on a Surrey bus at 9:30 am. The victim is in life threatening condition. Apparently it is being investigated as an ISIS terrorist attack.
I doubt it was an ISIS attack given its random nature without a specific target.... Maybe some random, twisted nut job who associates himself with their movement
I doubt it was an ISIS attack given its random nature without a specific target.... Maybe some random, twisted nut job who associates himself with their movement
This is kind of exactly what they've been doing in Western countries for a while now. These off-brand ISIS lone wolfs just attack whoever.
So in Vancouver, some might recall they tried to clear out the encampments on Hastings a while ago, leading to riot police that day... Anyways, they failed to clear it out back then, so the new mayor send them in today and actually successfully cleared everything out. Some sketchy stuff though during the clear out where apparently media wasn't allowed down there and then the street cameras - all 4 down there - unfortunately, stopped working...
There should be more transparency for sure, but I don't disagree with the decampment. Nobody is safe down there. There was a report not that long ago women living in the camp were routinely sexually assaulted and being trafficked. There are also people who live down there, not in camps, who live in fear and often can't even get into their homes because they get blocked.
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