04-11-2021, 04:41 PM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Foligno normally would never get a 1st and 4th but in a bad draft year I see why Toronto did it. He could be put in for scrums in the corners in a pk or grind it out situation so it really isn’t bad as they’re going all in. Now, I really hope the Flames are dangling some of their lesser players because even in a widely agreed “bad” draft year they may still pick up a flyer with a high pick if many teams see this years draft as expendable.
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04-11-2021, 04:41 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Foligno has 16 points. He’s never been a big PO producer (on bad teams). He’s 33. I think Ryan is as useful - maybe moreso, Bennett is the same type of player only younger (so you’d own his rights if you so chose).
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Ryan has 6 points and 3 career playoff points...don't set yourself up for disappointment
Where does Ryan rank on the deadline lists?
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04-11-2021, 04:45 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Ryan has 6 points and 3 career playoff points...don't set yourself up for disappointment
Where does Ryan rank on the deadline lists?
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I’m not setting myself up for anything - I just think he’s underrated. And his 6 points are in half the games of Foligno’s 12. His PO points are a result of bench shortening, no poorer play and the fact he’s been in the POs only two years. He may not be grabbed but teams are missing an opportunity.
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04-11-2021, 04:45 PM
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#44
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Foligno has 16 points. He’s never been a big PO producer (on bad teams). He’s 33. I think Ryan is as useful - maybe moreso, Bennett is the same type of player only younger (so you’d own his rights if you so chose).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
if someone was offering a 2nd he would be gone
he has 6 points this season and 3 career playoff points...He isn't anywhere near as big of a name
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Flames fans may have been in sell mode for weeks. Flames management I bet hasn’t been. Cap is tight too. Teams may be waiting but as the deadline gets closer teams will be more willing to pull the trigger
If Ryan gets traded I wouldn’t be shocked he got us a 2nd. 3rd is worst I’m expecting at this point
Last edited by Macho0978; 04-11-2021 at 04:50 PM.
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04-11-2021, 04:57 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Columbus beat writer says it is likely Foligno will end up back in Columbus when free agency starts
Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
Looking ahead here, but there’s a very good chance Nick Foligno will re-sign with #CBJ this summer as an unrestricted free agent.
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I can see Getzlaf going to Vegas and re-signing in Anaheim in the summer.
Would love for Ryan to get moved for a pick and re-sign in Calgary at a lower number.
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04-11-2021, 05:28 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Button commenting - says TO won. Also has a huge bruise on his face?
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04-11-2021, 05:36 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Button commenting - says TO won. Also has a huge bruise on his face?
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Just saw his comments, he's not wrong in saying TO needs this type of player. And yeah looks like he took a nasty punch in the eye.
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04-11-2021, 05:36 PM
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#49
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Lifetime Suspension
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Huge missed opportunity. Should have simply tweeted, "I fell".
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04-11-2021, 05:46 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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Ryan already cleared waivers this season, twice. I don't think he's worth a 2nd.
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04-11-2021, 06:09 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Ryan already cleared waivers this season, twice. I don't think he's worth a 2nd.
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Waivers - 100% of salary
Trade - 50%, plus less actual dollars the further along in the season.
Ryan at 1.7M is a pretty good deal.
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04-11-2021, 06:24 PM
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#52
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Lifetime Suspension
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Derek Ryan is small and soft. He is not a guy a playoff team is looking for as a final piece.
On a contender he is a good healthy scratch to have on hand, if cheap.
I like the guy, but he is not moving the needle for anyone contending.
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04-11-2021, 06:47 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I could see some of the lower ranked playoff teams doing a future considerations kind of deal for some of our UFAs, but that is about it.
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04-11-2021, 06:58 PM
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#54
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Iggy-ville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Button commenting - says TO won. Also has a huge bruise on his face?
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I threw out my back two years ago playing Pickleball, ended up with a severely herniated disc and sciatica. It’s a tough sport! My friends and coworkers haven’t and will never let me live it down!
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04-11-2021, 07:54 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Comparing Foligno to Ryan and Bennett is ridiculous.
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04-11-2021, 08:57 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois
Comparing Foligno to Ryan and Bennett is ridiculous.
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Compare his stats to Bennett’s.
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04-11-2021, 09:31 PM
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#57
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Compare his stats to Bennett’s.
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Which stats? How close to 1000 games and 500 points? 30 point seasons? 30
Goal seasons? Playoff wins? Number of games as a captain? Playoff series wins as a captain?
Different players at different points in their career. What Toronto would acquire foligno for Sam Bennett can’t bring. Maybe a decade from now he will, but it’s not there today.
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04-11-2021, 09:36 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois
Which stats? How close to 1000 games and 500 points? 30 point seasons? 30
Goal seasons? Playoff wins? Number of games as a captain? Playoff series wins as a captain?
Different players at different points in their career. What Toronto would acquire foligno for Sam Bennett can’t bring. Maybe a decade from now he will, but it’s not there today.
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LOL. Who cares about what he was. Toronto isn’t trading for mid 20s Foligno 7 years ago. They are renting 33 year old him now. And right now, they are awfully similar players. Or should they also sign UFA Wayne Gretzky? He has good career stats.
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04-11-2021, 10:07 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Compare his stats to Bennett’s.
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The game is about a lot more than stats. Foligno is really tough to play against. And not just in the hitting department. He can line up against top lines and be reliable positionally without the puck. He can dominate along the boards and in corners.That’s simply not true of Bennett.
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04-11-2021, 10:08 PM
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#60
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Better return for Foligno than Hall? Interesting...
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