[GT] Calgary Municipal Election 2021

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Pizza

lol

That awkward silence as nobody clapped for Chu as he walked up to the podium

You love to not hear it.

[Ozy_Flame]

If he can't be removed, I hope they ignore everything he basically says in Council until he decides to do the right thing and step down.

And if he doesn't, I also hope Gondek assigns him a special in-Chambers advisor so that he doesn't waste Council's time with time wasting, obstructing, not knowing the issues, unaware of Council procedures, and being generally disorganized.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

People have preconceived notions about what is a waste of money, where the budget can be cut etc. based on their personal uses of city services. For example if they drive everywhere they might see transit as a target for cuts. If they are home bodies or are outdoors people maybe they see arts funding as wasteful (theatre, symphony), if they throw everything in the garbage maybe they see recycling fees as excessive. I'll bet if you ask 10 people you would get 10 different answers as to what could be cut and where spending is wasteful. I like to consider myself pretty reasonable but admit I'm probably the same, my ideas would not be the same as others either.

I'd cut all funding to Lake Bonavista, for starters.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'd cut all funding to Lake Bonavista, for starters.

Lake Bonavista, cluttered with water. Let's fill that sucker and put in condo towers.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Looch City

She actually didn't and he was sworn in by the chief justice or some other.

Originally Posted by Pizza

lol

That awkward silence as nobody clapped for Chu as he walked up to the podium

Message sent.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

People have preconceived notions about what is a waste of money, where the budget can be cut etc. based on their personal uses of city services. For example if they drive everywhere they might see transit as a target for cuts. If they are home bodies or are outdoors people maybe they see arts funding as wasteful (theatre, symphony), if they throw everything in the garbage maybe they see recycling fees as excessive. I'll bet if you ask 10 people you would get 10 different answers as to what could be cut and where spending is wasteful. I like to consider myself pretty reasonable but admit I'm probably the same, my ideas would not be the same as others either.

Well recycling should be cut because sorting plastic into piles to be disposed of in the landfill is stupid and homeless people and charities take care of the useful aluminum recycling. Maybe some cardboard program would make sense but most recycling is pointless. Organica and the green bin is good though.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by GGG

Well recycling should be cut because sorting plastic into piles to be disposed of in the landfill is stupid and homeless people and charities take care of the useful aluminum recycling. Maybe some cardboard program would make sense but most recycling is pointless. Organica and the green bin is good though.

My blue bin is basically my overflow garbage bin for clean dry items. The official rules for what is and isn't allowed is ridiculously long, so I don't even bother. I know most of it goes to the landfill anyway, so as long as what I throw in doesn't make a mess of the actual recyclables I don't see the harm

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

My blue bin is basically my overflow garbage bin for clean dry items. The official rules for what is and isn't allowed is ridiculously long, so I don't even bother. I know most of it goes to the landfill anyway, so as long as what I throw in doesn't make a mess of the actual recyclables I don't see the harm

You are costing the rest of us money by doing that. We pay people to sort it, and remove un-recyclable items. By using it as a trash, you are making more work for them. That's bad, and you should feel bad for doing it.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You are costing the rest of us money by doing that. We pay people to sort it, and remove un-recyclable items. By using it as a trash, you are making more work for them. That's bad, and you should feel bad for doing it.

No the city should feel bad for recycling anything but aluminum and paper/cardboard.

The recycling movement is terrible. It discourages the first 2Rs by giving people a dopamine hit by doing the right thing putting garbage plastics that their is no market for at the volumes we have. Just landfill it, it’s cost effective.

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

My blue bin is basically my overflow garbage bin for clean dry items. The official rules for what is and isn't allowed is ridiculously long, so I don't even bother. I know most of it goes to the landfill anyway, so as long as what I throw in doesn't make a mess of the actual recyclables I don't see the harm

This is the problem with society in a nutshell.

"I don't want to follow the clear rules that are in place for everyone, so I do what I please even though it harms others. I don't see the problem with that."

[Looch City]

Jesus Christ, is this seriously that hard??

https://www.calgary.ca/uep/wrs/recyc...-recycled.html

YES: paper, cardboard, plastic, bags
NO: electronics, hazardous materials, clothing, foam, batteries

This is like elementary grade knowledge...

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GGG

No the city should feel bad for recycling anything but aluminum and paper/cardboard.

The recycling movement is terrible. It discourages the first 2Rs by giving people a dopamine hit by doing the right thing putting garbage plastics that their is no market for at the volumes we have. Just landfill it, it’s cost effective.

A dopamine hit from putting a piece of plastic in the blue bin?

You know what, I've changed my mind, we can't legalize hard drugs. People are out here addicted to basic recycling.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

This is the problem with society in a nutshell.

"I don't want to follow the clear rules that are in place for everyone, so I do what I please even though it harms others. I don't see the problem with that."

Embarrassing actually. How can people share stories like this and not feel like complete tools?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GGG

No the city should feel bad for recycling anything but aluminum and paper/cardboard.

The recycling movement is terrible. It discourages the first 2Rs by giving people a dopamine hit by doing the right thing putting garbage plastics that their is no market for at the volumes we have. Just landfill it, it’s cost effective.

As long as the city does things the way it does, we should follow the rules for the most cost effective way of using the system they have setup. Feel free to call it dumb, but that's what we've got, and by abusing it, you are costing us even more. You also risk jamming up the machinery if you, say, through an old extension cord away. Sure, it's clean. But it's also a disaster waiting to happen.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

A dopamine hit from putting a piece of plastic in the blue bin?

You know what, I've changed my mind, we can't legalize hard drugs. People are out here addicted to basic recycling.

Yes, the recycling of plastics is heavily funded by the plastics industry to green wash consumption of plastics. We had a great thing going by exporting our pollution to China where children sorted our garbage and most of it was burned producing toxic chemicals for the people living near these facilities to breathe in.

And we got to say our plastic use was fine because we recycle.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

As long as the city does things the way it does, we should follow the rules for the most cost effective way of using the system they have setup. Feel free to call it dumb, but that's what we've got, and by abusing it, you are costing us even more. You also risk jamming up the machinery if you, say, through an old extension cord away. Sure, it's clean. But it's also a disaster waiting to happen.

This is probably true, I just throw my plastics in the garbage to save the city more money and you should too.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GGG

This is probably true, I just throw my plastics in the garbage to save the city more money and you should too.

What's the current situation? The latest news I found was the clamshells they threw in the dump. I honestly have no idea what happens with our plastic these days. Does the city disclose this stuff?

[burn_this_city]

Ah yes, the I'm too cheap to do a dump run so I'll contaminate an entire garbage truck of recycling. Bravo.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

A dopamine hit from putting a piece of plastic in the blue bin?

You know what, I've changed my mind, we can't legalize hard drugs. People are out here addicted to basic recycling.

So I guess we can just chalk it up to ignorance then. Because household recycling doesn’t achieve what people think (or want to think) it achieves. As GGG notes, the vast majority of the stuff we put in blue bins winds up in the same landfills as garbage.

The CBC doesn’t use the term ‘dopamine hit’, and instead calls recycling a ‘salve to the conscience.’

Given that Canadians produce close to a tonne of waste per capita every year, it's a salve to the conscience to think that we can put some of our waste into a blue bin, and it will be transformed into something useful instead of being dumped in a landfill.

The reality is not so reassuring. In Canada, for example, only nine per cent of plastic waste is recycled. Mountains of material collected in blue bins is piling up in landfills, being incinerated, or adding to the swirling islands of plastic flotsam that are choking oceans and killing wildlife. According to some experts, recycling is in crisis.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sunday/the-...cled-1.5099103

Plastic ‘recycling’ was already questionable when it was being shipped to China to dispose of. Now that they’re no longer accepting it, plastic recycling is pretty much a fraud.

As municipalities are forced to deal with their own trash instead of exporting it, they are discovering a dismaying fact: much of this plastic is completely unrecyclable.

The issue is with a popular class of plastics that people have traditionally been told to put into their recycling bins – a hodgepodge of items such as clamshell-style food packaging, black plastic trays, take-out containers and cold drink cups, which the industry dubs “mixed plastic”. It has become clear that there are virtually no domestic manufacturers that want to buy this waste in order to turn it into something else.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ling-landfills

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Jesus Christ, is this seriously that hard??

https://www.calgary.ca/uep/wrs/recyc...-recycled.html

YES: paper, cardboard, plastic, bags
NO: electronics, hazardous materials, clothing, foam, batteries

This is like elementary grade knowledge...

Everyone knows that batteries are to be reserved for throwing at normal vagrants and vagrants dressed as Santa Claus!