Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Update: Acquitted On All Charges

[Lanny_McDonald]

Another thread ruined by the alt-right troll brigade. Just post pepe and close the thread.

[2Stonedbirds]

Yeah, we can't ignore facts, blame rape victims or come up with our own hairbrained ideas on what constitutes weapons or assaults, better construct the effigy that is pleasing to our preconceived notions and bow out, eh?

[speede5]

This whole incident should just be a precautionary tale about trying to police when your not the police, or something along those lines.

Kyle put himself in a bad position trying to be a good citizen and protecting property from vandals. Brought an assault rifle to a volatile situation and then had to use it because he ended up in a position where he feared for his life.

The victims thought they were being heroes by trying to take down an active shooter. This is something the right seems to want people to do more of, and in fact were prepared to do that evening as they were 'guarding' property with automatic weapons. Stand up to the bad guys and do what the police aren't.

This kid walking through the crowd with a rifle looked just like any other shooter in how many mass casualty events that happen in this messed up country. He could have just as easily been taken out by someone with more right leaning politics had he been spotted shooting at someone.

People need to learn from this and see that when they decide to take the law into their own hands they create situations where bad things are going to happen. It's just endless blaming left v right and neither side is behaving like adults.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Another thread ruined by the alt-right troll brigade. Just post pepe and close the thread.

They almost blew it early with posting a tweet from a white supremacist (they always, eventually, make the same mistakes) but really rounded it out nicely with the rape victim comparison.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

If a black person did what this guy did, there’s zero chance of acquittal.

Zero.

This was literally the same day as the Rittenhouse acquittal. Different circumstances of course, but to say the "courts are racist against black people" is not 2021 reality in the USA.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-acq...-of-girlfriend

[81MC]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Another thread ruined by the alt-right troll brigade. Just post pepe and close the thread.

Questionable rape victim analogies aside, what exactly has ruined this thread?

Half of you have been completely wrong on the legal side. You’ve stated things that are unequivocally false. And when the courts rules on the side people don’t agree with, sweeping absolutes about the defendants race are pulled back in.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Another thread ruined by the alt-right troll brigade. Just post pepe and close the thread.

Now you're the one trolling
Sorry just because you don't agree with someone it doesn't make them alt-right.
Also since you brought it up, Pepe isn't a racist symbol just because 4chan said so as a joke. It was also used as a symbol by the Hong Kong protestors.

[OptimalTates]

Ahmaud Arbery trial is ongoing, closing arguments happening as we speak.

They're going for the Rittenhouse defense.

Prosecutors statement:

You can't be the unjustified aggressor. You can't create the situation and then say that you were defending yourself. You just can't do...you just can't do it.

Someone should tell her.

Jesting aside, I can't see anyway that this could be anything but guilty unless the jury is racist. They actively chased him down in vehicles and cornered him. He reached for the gun, that was pointed at him, when a couple of hillbillies aimed it him after trying to run him over. They never even saw him commit a crime.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Another thread ruined by the alt-right troll brigade. Just post pepe and close the thread.

Yeah, it was better when it was a bunch of posters with superficial or outright fake news takes on the subject fist-bumping one other as they indulged in moral outrage. These threads always go downhill once people start introducing concrete facts, laws, and context into the conversation.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Yeah, it was better when it was a bunch of posters with superficial or outright fake news takes on the subject fist-bumping one other as they indulged in moral outrage. These threads always go downhill once people start introducing concrete facts, laws, and context into the conversation.

This is especially hilarious when you realise it’s coming from someone who was arguing that the Nazi’s did some good things.

Better get the right context everyone, otherwise we might do something crazy like demonise the Nazi party! Don’t worry, Cliff will sort us out.

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

This was literally the same day as the Rittenhouse acquittal. Different circumstances of course, but to say the "courts are racist against black people" is not 2021 reality in the USA.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-acq...-of-girlfriend

Extremely different circumstances. His girlfriend was killed.

Hard to imagine his defence holds up if a police officer was killed.

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

Extremely different circumstances. His girlfriend was killed.

Hard to imagine his defence holds up if a police officer was killed.

Andrew Coffee IV and Kenneth Walker unfortunately experienced very much the same situation. Coffee had to endure trial while Walker had his charges dropped pretty quickly (something that protests and riots no doubt helped in my opinion). Coffee was a felon and drug dealer, will serve time for his illegal possession of firearm, but still to be put on trial for killing your girlfriend because SWAT shot and killed her in your bed over some drugs...

Sorry I misread and edit post.

Edit again: this whole post was a mess lol, my bad

Edit again again: Damn it, it took a year to get the charges permanently dismissed for Walker? COVID really messed with time for me.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by speede5

This whole incident should just be a precautionary tale about trying to police when your not the police, or something along those lines.

Kyle put himself in a bad position trying to be a good citizen and protecting property from vandals. Brought an assault rifle to a volatile situation and then had to use it because he ended up in a position where he feared for his life.

The victims thought they were being heroes by trying to take down an active shooter. This is something the right seems to want people to do more of, and in fact were prepared to do that evening as they were 'guarding' property with automatic weapons. Stand up to the bad guys and do what the police aren't.

This kid walking through the crowd with a rifle looked just like any other shooter in how many mass casualty events that happen in this messed up country. He could have just as easily been taken out by someone with more right leaning politics had he been spotted shooting at someone.

People need to learn from this and see that when they decide to take the law into their own hands they create situations where bad things are going to happen. It's just endless blaming left v right and neither side is behaving like adults.

Kyle was the victim. The the guys that got shot were not.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Kyle was the victim. The the guys that got shot were not.

Once again:

vic·tim
/ˈviktəm/

noun
noun: victim; plural noun: victims

a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.

All four were victims. And Rittenhouse has the least claim to the definition out of all of them. What did he get, a scraped knee?

EDIT: And I should say, if we're talking strictly legal terms, Rittenhouse was the defendant and the other three were the victims. There's literally no definition, legal, common sense, or otherwise, with which you can argue that Rittenhouse was the victim and the others were not.

[PsYcNeT]

So I guess this basically sets precedent that it's better to just shoot the guy rather than try and disarm him I guess.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

This is especially hilarious when you realise it’s coming from someone who was arguing that the Nazi’s did some good things.

Better get the right context everyone, otherwise we might do something crazy like demonise the Nazi party! Don’t worry, Cliff will sort us out.

Wow, you’re really going to town on that one, aren’t you? How many posts have you made about it now?

Fishing for Thanks with snarky ad hominems once you’ve run out of arguments. Classic Pepsi.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Wow, you’re really going to town on that one, aren’t you? How many posts have you made about it now?

Fishing for Thanks with snarky dunks once you’ve run out of arguments. Classic Pepsi.

Two posts so far. That one has lots of legs. It's not everyday someone argues the Nazi party did good things, Cliff. I have to milk it! I'll probably shoehorn it in another 3-4 times.

I'm sorry I interrupted your routine back-patting about being the arbiter of truth and measured conduct. What did you say about running out of arguments? Right, classic.

[TheIronMaiden]

I had no idea that there were so many experts on shooting people at riots floating around.

[Monahammer]

The part of the system most broken is that a 17 year old felt empowered to attend a protest that had nothing to do with him (he wasnt a business owner in Kenosha protecting his turf...) to "defend" against protesters. He killed people as a result of that decision.

This is the same type of mentality that creates home grown terrorists and vigilantes.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Once again:


All four were victims. And Rittenhouse has the least claim to the definition out of all of them. What did he get, a scraped knee?

EDIT: And I should say, if we're talking strictly legal terms, Rittenhouse was the defendant and the other three were the victims. There's literally no definition, legal, common sense, or otherwise, with which you can argue that Rittenhouse was the victim and the others were not.

I assumed in this case, we were talking about the victim of a crime. If you think it is useful to clarify this, then I guess we can do that.