The problem with Snyder is that his only real successes came as a frame by frame remake of Moore's Watchmen and Miller's 300. Slight alterations, sure. Generally, he doesn't have it in him to create anything original. It's what made him such a weird choice to run the DCEU. They saw him try Legend of the Guardians and Sucker Punch, so they knew that he had a ceiling to his ability, but they went with him anyway.
WB would have been better served handing the reins to Geoff Johns and just getting out of the way. He would have been fine at the Fiege job of just making sure the storylines made sense, and staying out of writing and directing. (I mean, he could moonlight as a comic writer.)
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The biggest problem is that Snyder always wanted to do a 5 movie epic but WB wanted a MCU style universe of films. They never ironed this out and hence we get 2 different time lines. Both Jenkins and Waan have said their movies will follow the Snyder Cut universe and not the Justice League released in theatres. I think if the Snyder films were part of their own universe they would have been more well recieved by fans and critics.
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When you hire a director who doesn't share your vision and you can't convince him to, then you're doing something drastically wrong and your movie is probably doomed to fail.
The question is why did WB give Snyder freedom to almost finish a very unique film, and then step in right near the end and try and turn it into a very generic film.
Wonder Woman 1984 earned $5.5 million in domestic theaters this weekend, dropping a sharp (and almost unprecedented for a Christmas release, save for Justin Bieber’s Believe in 2013) 67% in its second Fri-Sun frame.
WW84 has earned $28.5 million in ten days, with the sharp drop likely ending any hope of getting past the $58 million domestic cume of Tenet. It’ll pass The Croods: A New Age ($34 million domestic) to be the second-biggest “post-pandemic” Hollywood flick thus far, but only by default.
Its interesting, because of the view from home for 30 bucks thing. But it essentially to me has less to do with Covid then the fact that when the reviews started coming out people decided to wait until it came out for free to watch it.
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It is a curious question, considering there is practically no competition. If it was as strong a movie as the first Wonder Woman, would it be able to hold steady with it's draw for two weeks? Three weeks? More?
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Its interesting, because of the view from home for 30 bucks thing. But it essentially to me has less to do with Covid then the fact that when the reviews started coming out people decided to wait until it came out for free to watch it.
The $30 price point is too high for me. It would have to be a movie with rave reviews that I also can't wait to see for me to pay that much to watch at home.
If the theaters open up again I'd see it there. Otherwise, I'm waiting until Netflix. Maybe I'll pay $6 to rent it in demand, if I get really bored one night.
I think they are still figuring out the whole price point thing, but at $15-20, they'd probably sell over twice as many rentals and increase profits.
The $30 price point is too high for me. It would have to be a movie with rave reviews that I also can't wait to see for me to pay that much to watch at home.
If the theaters open up again I'd see it there. Otherwise, I'm waiting until Netflix. Maybe I'll pay $6 to rent it in demand, if I get really bored one night.
I think they are still figuring out the whole price point thing, but at $15-20, they'd probably sell over twice as many rentals and increase profits.
I have zero interest in it at $30.00, I mean if I had a sig other or kids, it makes sense. But the first run movies on PPV are all in that 25 or 30 dollar range, so I'm not spending a bunch of money on movies right now.
I think this is a matter that when the movie came out and the freeze was lifted on the reviews the movie was savaged, and listening to some people here, and some friends, rightfully so. So you're always going to get that opening day surge, but those viewers killed the movie on review or social media, and everyone else looked at the costs and went narf.
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I totally understand people didn't enjoy WW84 but in terms of box office I feel like the narrative isn't fair. Tenet came out in summer and with no view at home options and after opening to $20 million the next weekend it dropped 67% to $6.7 million. I will fully admit BvS had a terrible 2nd weekend and if this were a normal year and it had a 67% 2nd weekend drop I would agree with you. But given what's going on in the world a 67% drop in North America is perfectly reasonable, especially as it's in line with the only other large release. In fact because it has an option to view at home makes its performance better than Tenet .
I totally understand people didn't enjoy WW84 but in terms of box office I feel like the narrative isn't fair. Tenet came out in summer and with no view at home options and after opening to $20 million the next weekend it dropped 67% to $6.7 million. I will fully admit BvS had a terrible 2nd weekend and if this were a normal year and it had a 67% 2nd weekend drop I would agree with you. But given what's going on in the world a 67% drop in North America is perfectly reasonable, especially as it's in line with the only other large release. In fact because it has an option to view at home makes its performance better than Tenet .
Why do you care so much about being fair to a mediocre superhero movie?
The $30 price point is too high for me. It would have to be a movie with rave reviews that I also can't wait to see for me to pay that much to watch at home.
If the theaters open up again I'd see it there. Otherwise, I'm waiting until Netflix. Maybe I'll pay $6 to rent it in demand, if I get really bored one night.
I think they are still figuring out the whole price point thing, but at $15-20, they'd probably sell over twice as many rentals and increase profits.
I honestly wouldnt waste your money.
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