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Old 07-13-2022, 02:30 PM   #1781
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If all he cared about was money, then simple math would tell you he’s extending with the team who can give him the most of it.

That’s us.
You don't know that. There are many teams that could afford to offer Tkachuk just as much money as the Flames can. Until he gives them a chance to bid, he has no way of telling which one is willing to overspend the most.
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Old 07-13-2022, 02:30 PM   #1782
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A sign and trade of Tkachuk for a blue chip and a 1st rounder would be sweet.
If only Treliving had known that Johnny was not going to sign prior to the draft, he could have possibly moved Tkachuk to New Jersey for the #2 overall and one of New Jersey's top prospects (Holtz was the speculation). Could have eased our pain with Shane Wright and Alexander Holtz to kick off our rebuild/retool. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
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Old 07-13-2022, 02:30 PM   #1783
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No one considered them a contender last year and they are bringing the same team back with Kane and Nurse getting big raises.

We just sucked more than anything. McDavid hits another level against us and Markstrom can't play against him. More a Calgary issue than anything.
The Oilers with Kane were as good as any team in the West not named Colorado. I don't consider them to be a great team, but they are a threat. Goaltending and defense look like it will still be an issue. I also wonder how Kane settles in now that he is comfortably set up for the next 4 years and no longer playing for his livelihood.
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Old 07-13-2022, 02:30 PM   #1784
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Dynamics in the locker room will definitely be interesting. With Gaudreau gone, the vet faction and the Swedish faction are likely to have a lot more sway. I wonder how those guys feel about Tkachuk. His antics?
Backlund, Markstrom, and Andersson don't really seem to have a problem mixing it up. I can't see the Swedish continent having a problem with the way Chucky conducts himself.
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Old 07-13-2022, 02:39 PM   #1785
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The Oilers with Kane were as good as any team in the West not named Colorado. I don't consider them to be a great team, but they are a threat. Goaltending and defense look like it will still be an issue. I also wonder how Kane settles in now that he is comfortably set up for the next 4 years and no longer playing for his livelihood.
Ya until they beat us no one was saying anything about them then they got swept by Colorado in an uncompetitive series.
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Old 07-13-2022, 02:41 PM   #1786
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Backlund, Markstrom, and Andersson don't really seem to have a problem mixing it up. I can't see the Swedish continent having a problem with the way Chucky conducts himself.
Watch Kylington and Tkachuk tag team chirping Kane in game one.
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Old 07-13-2022, 02:45 PM   #1787
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If only Treliving had known that Johnny was not going to sign prior to the draft, he could have possibly moved Tkachuk to New Jersey for the #2 overall and one of New Jersey's top prospects (Holtz was the speculation). Could have eased our pain with Shane Wright and Alexander Holtz to kick off our rebuild/retool. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
And why couldn’t they just make the same trade (that was never on the table btw- I can confirm ) today then? Because Wright wasn’t drafted? Because NJ no longer wants MT a week later despite not adding anyone ?

This trade was never happening
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Old 07-13-2022, 03:51 PM   #1788
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Old 07-13-2022, 04:50 PM   #1789
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Wait, sorry nvm... why are my twitter notifications delayed by 2 hours?
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Let's go after Kadri and Palat
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Old 07-13-2022, 05:51 PM   #1791
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Not sure how everything else pans out, but it's interesting that the jackets, wings, Sens, canes all much better as of now. All eastern teams.

West seems pretty meh outside of the avs. Sucks but might be a reason the flames don't decide to rebuild/retool...
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:56 PM   #1792
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Go and offer 9.75x2 to Bergeron

Win every game 2-1
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:00 PM   #1793
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Vegas will get Kadri and Cassidy will lead the veteran laden team to the cup.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:06 PM   #1794
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Actually jeez, I actually looked at capfriendly and it’s even going to be tough to properly sign all three of Tkachuk/Mangiapane/Kylington to 8 year deals. Need to move out at least one contract to make it work. Either that or move one of them.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:08 PM   #1795
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If only Treliving had known that Johnny was not going to sign prior to the draft, he could have possibly moved Tkachuk to New Jersey for the #2 overall and one of New Jersey's top prospects (Holtz was the speculation). Could have eased our pain with Shane Wright and Alexander Holtz to kick off our rebuild/retool. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Holtz was never part of the proposal, that was just wishful thinking and speculation by fans. It was 2nd overall plus something like a 3rd rounder
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Old 07-14-2022, 12:39 AM   #1796
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The Oilers with Kane were as good as any team in the West not named Colorado.
St. Louis gave Colorado a hell of a lot more trouble than the Oilers did.
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Holtz was never part of the proposal, that was just wishful thinking and speculation by fans. It was 2nd overall plus something like a 3rd rounder
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Old 07-14-2022, 02:25 AM   #1798
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If only Treliving had known that Johnny was not going to sign prior to the draft, he could have possibly moved Tkachuk to New Jersey for the #2 overall and one of New Jersey's top prospects (Holtz was the speculation). Could have eased our pain with Shane Wright and Alexander Holtz to kick off our rebuild/retool. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
I missed that in Trevliving's presser, what a Moron, with my great GM history, I would have got rid of that dead weight in a instant.
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Old 07-14-2022, 06:18 AM   #1799
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Columbus have anything worthwhile in the prospects cupboard? Should try to send Monahan over there.
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Old 07-14-2022, 06:23 AM   #1800
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JT Miller would be a nice fit on the Flames. Sounds like he’s not super happy in vcr. Not a free agent though I believe.

I don’t mind Kadri either. Both would add some grit and almost replace Johnny’s production.
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