01-09-2026, 05:18 PM
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#19901
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Rhett44
No one even knows what the offers we received are. Maybe we already received the best offer we will get. Or maybe it is yet to come.
All I know is there is a big risk you are taking with waiting until the deadline with injury potential. Whether that risk is 1% or 5%, it is still a risk no matter how you argue it.
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There is a big risk for buyers too. Many of the potential buyers don't know exactly where they stand yet and if it is worth going all in this season, and the few that are sure can afford to wait and aren't desperate to add. Many of the potential buyers also only have the assets to make one splash. They don't want to spend their assets on one player as a specific position because injuries happen. They can't be certain that their needs don't change in the next month or that better options become available as the standings shake out more.
I can think of a lot of reasons why buyers would wait, especially this year, and until more buyers present themselves, sellers probably aren't getting great deals.
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01-09-2026, 05:32 PM
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#19902
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by ColossusXIII
If the offers aren't good enough I think that can only mean that the prices were indeed set too high.
I guess I view it less as a set price that must be met and more of an auction with the Flames essentially setting the minimum price with their own bid.
I have huge confidence in Conroy to find the best trade thats out there and I've got no issue with him taking this to the deadline if he believes the appreciation in returns will be worth it, but he can't dictate the market and if the return is midling that says more about what the market would bear than his ability as a GM.
The only outcome I'd be frustrated with would be if they aren't moved at all as it either means they never really wanted to move them in the first place or they themselves were the top bidder, which are kind of two ways of saying the same thing and (I think) would be a mistake in either framing. A bottom 5 team shouldn't be valuing productive 30+ year olds more than the actual contenders do.
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You have never (apparently) sold a house or a car...or probably anything else on an open market (eg FB Marketplace, which I abhor). Most of the "offers" are lowball for the latter two items....and most realtors for purchasers won't present an offer on a house that isn't at least vaguely realistic.
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01-09-2026, 05:37 PM
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#19903
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Kamloops, BC
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All this speculation is like if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle talk.
Our insiders who have actual sources in the organization say a few things rather repeatedly.
Conroy has authority to execute whatever trade he wants
Naz and Coleman like it here, but will do what’s best for the team. Which means if there is an acceptable offer it will be accepted.
Andersson is not resigning and will be gone eventually.
Yall get tired of your Christmas presents already and have nothing better to do than rehash the same worries every 45 mins?
Nothing Lebrun said to me screams the flames aren’t listening or won’t make any deals. The no mans land comment from what I understand is don’t draft 16 every year or you’re not going to get better. Which we aren’t. So grab a doobie from your authorized cannabis dispensary and relax. Take up a hobby, something other than complaining about the same thing over and over again.
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01-09-2026, 05:44 PM
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#19904
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Scoring Winger
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I’m bored. Let’s go Conroy
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01-09-2026, 05:53 PM
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#19905
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Okotoks
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If you're Colorado you're getting Kadri for your 3rd line, a la Kessel on those Penguins cup teams. You keep Nelson where he is and Kadri is your expensive depth luxury that puts you over the top.
Edit: Oops I think I'm in the wrong thread.
Last edited by rogermexico; 01-09-2026 at 05:56 PM.
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01-09-2026, 05:53 PM
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#19906
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by taxbuster
You have never (apparently) sold a house or a car...or probably anything else on an open market (eg FB Marketplace, which I abhor). Most of the "offers" are lowball for the latter two items....and most realtors for purchasers won't present an offer on a house that isn't at least vaguely realistic.
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I'd expect lowball offers to be flying around right now for sure and you're right Conroy shouldn't accept the first thing offered, but the conversation I was responding to was about if the trade deadline comes and goes and those players aren't moved. If right at the deadline the offers are still bad those are no longer lowball offers, it's just a soft market.
Houses and cars don't have clear deadlines or expirations where their value hits inflection points, nor is there such thing as a mushy middle to avoid in real life, so I guess I don't view the analogy as 100% equivalent, but I appreciate the perspective.
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01-09-2026, 05:56 PM
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#19907
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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To me Rasmus' value will only go up during the Olympics. At worst it stays the same if he doesn't factor in anything substantial. Why not wait until there's more hype around him? I wouldn't worry too much about chance of injuries during the 7 or so games Sweden may be playing.
Regarding Kadri, I do think a deal for him would be best in the off-season where teams have more cap space, and you don't have to make moves to get there. It's probably in his best interest as well to pick up and move if needed, then.
Coleman should be dealt ASAP, by the deadline. He's a classic deadline acquisition for many teams. There seems to be a hype around him this year that will probably never be higher. Hope the value matches that media hype.
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01-09-2026, 06:08 PM
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#19908
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Then the demands weren’t market appropriate.
Overvaluing your own players is a poison pill, as is undervaluing. ‘Tis the job of a good GM to set a direction, and execute to that direction within the confines of the market. Extract best value available, don’t manage to your own dreams disconnected from reality.
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They'll have to assess that for sure.
If they wanted to trade both players (they may not), and didn't get it done then maybe they set the prices too high.
But that's not now. Could be the case on March 6th though.
But other things can happen too. A team that they in weeks into negotiating with could bail on them last second and leave them holding the bag.
Lots of risks.
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01-09-2026, 06:19 PM
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#19909
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Royle9
I know they’ve received offers on Rasmus, some good but nothing “great” yet.
I’d wager they’ve probably had discussions about the other guys, not sure on offers but I’ve asked in a round about way.
Insert wheels in motion gif
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01-09-2026, 06:51 PM
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#19910
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Teams are very hesitant to put their best offers on players right now, especially in regards to Andersson as he is an injury risk at the Olympics.
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01-09-2026, 07:12 PM
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#19911
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Teams are very hesitant to put their best offers on players right now, especially in regards to Andersson as he is an injury risk at the Olympics.
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That’s when Conroy picks the most aggressive teams that are trying to get Andersson and tell them to get the lie real offers together because they are making a move.
This is what I heard Steinberg saying on the radio today as well. That he thinks Conroy should get serious about moving Andersson asap.
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01-09-2026, 07:19 PM
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#19912
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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The Andersson trade isn't going down before the Olympics are over. Settle in folks.
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01-09-2026, 07:44 PM
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#19914
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
The Andersson trade isn't going down before the Olympics are over. Settle in folks.
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You've had inside info in the past I believe...is there a specific reason this won't get done before hand?
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01-09-2026, 07:59 PM
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#19915
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Franchise Player
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What is a rube?
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01-09-2026, 08:07 PM
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#19916
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
The Andersson trade isn't going down before the Olympics are over. Settle in folks.
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Max value better be max friggin value then.
Losing out on McKenna/Stenberg/Lawrence/Verhoeff to scratch up an extra 4th round pick just ain’t the ticket.
If she doesn’t go before the Olympic break, that delay better be worth a massive return because the negative impact on draft position odds could be no less than [dramatic pause] catastrophic.
Sean Monahan or Nathan MacKinnon in terms of skill-gap (not actual ceilings).
Difference between Sasha Barkov and Darnell Nurse.
Margins or so slim, that any delay in action better be stinkin’ worth it.
Go through a year like this and come out the wash with a friggin’ Jake Virtanen rather than a Leon Draisaitl.
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01-09-2026, 08:10 PM
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#19918
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Inferno
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Huh. I've never heard that term before. The more you know.
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01-09-2026, 08:11 PM
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#19919
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by memphusk
Huh. I've never heard that term before. The more you know.
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I had to search it up. lol I've heard people say it but never bothered looking it up.
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01-09-2026, 08:15 PM
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#19920
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Losing out on McKenna/Stenberg/Lawrence/Verhoeff to scratch up an extra 4th round pick just ain’t the ticket.
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I doubt an extra 4th is what's delaying Conroy from making a deal.
They're also third worst right now with all three players still on the team and playing like they did at the start of the season.
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