[Trade] Hanifin (salary retained) to Vegas for Miromanov + 2026 1st + cond 3rd

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Miromanov went from toss in to centerpiece in a hurry, eh? Now anyone calling out this complete 180 are getting attacked.

Guys, Conroy did his best, ok? That's all we can expect. And Big Brain Nonis signed off on it. So it must be a good return.

So let's stop analyzing and just enjoy our regularly scheduled enemas.

Conroy: Can I have Edstrom?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Brisson?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cormier?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cataford?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Miromanov?
McCrimmon: Who? Let me call you back.
(five hours later)
McCrimmon: My team tells me that is a player. So sure. You have a deal. Under two conditions...

The centerpiece is obviously the 1st rounder

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Miromanov went from toss in to centerpiece in a hurry, eh? Now anyone calling out this complete 180 are getting attacked.

Guys, Conroy did his best, ok? That's all we can expect. And Big Brain Nonis signed off on it. So it must be a good return.

So let's stop analyzing and just enjoy our regularly scheduled enemas.

Conroy: Can I have Edstrom?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Brisson?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cormier?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cataford?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Miromanov?
McCrimmon: Who? Let me call you back.
(five hours later)
McCrimmon: My team tells me that is a player. So sure. You have a deal. Under two conditions...

He wasn't a toss in...its been explained repeatedly.

[868904]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Miromanov went from toss in to centerpiece in a hurry, eh? Now anyone calling out this complete 180 are getting attacked.

Guys, Conroy did his best, ok? That's all we can expect. And Big Brain Nonis signed off on it. So it must be a good return.

So let's stop analyzing and just enjoy our regularly scheduled enemas.

Conroy: Can I have Edstrom?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Brisson?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cormier?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cataford?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Miromanov?
McCrimmon: Who? Let me call you back.
(five hours later)
McCrimmon: My team tells me that is a player. So sure. You have a deal. Under two conditions...

Conroy is sooo stupid, makes you wonder why Fitz hasn't acquired Markstrom for a 2nd round pick already.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Idk why people are clowning on Conroy for conditions on the first rounder. The 25 and 26 drafts are better and deeper than 24, those picks are more valuable. You also don’t want to have too many first round picks in the same year, there is more of a chance all the guys the scouts liked are gone by the third Flames first round pick and you are picking a guy you could have had in the second round.

Additionally, the conditions are very favourable to the Flames, if Vegas trades 25 pick then we get an UNPROTECTED 26 pick. With Vegas being one of the older teams in the league, with injury history, with no prospects and no picks, there is a good chance they are outside of playoffs in 2026.

I don't hate the return necessarily because I don't know anything about Miromanov and they seem very high on him, but the conditions and retaining seem unnecessary. I don't see the conditions as favourable to Calgary really or else Vegas wouldn't have asked for them. I'd rather just forget about the 2025 pick all together and just trade for the 2026 unprotected.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

I don't hate the return necessarily because I don't know anything about Miromanov and they seem very high on him, but the conditions and retaining seem unnecessary. I don't see the conditions as favourable to Calgary really or else Vegas wouldn't have asked for them. I'd rather just forget about the 2025 pick all together and just trade for the 2026 unprotected.

In 24 hours we will know the pick, the more it slides the better
the conditions are not a problem

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Maybe you should just put him on ignore.

You don't like me.

All good.

But why bother poking at it?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You don't like me.

All good.

But why bother poking at it?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Miromanov went from toss in to centerpiece in a hurry, eh? Now anyone calling out this complete 180 are getting attacked.

Guys, Conroy did his best, ok? That's all we can expect. And Big Brain Nonis signed off on it. So it must be a good return.

So let's stop analyzing and just enjoy our regularly scheduled enemas.

Conroy: Can I have Edstrom?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Brisson?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cormier?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cataford?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Miromanov?
McCrimmon: Who? Let me call you back.
(five hours later)
McCrimmon: My team tells me that is a player. So sure. You have a deal. Under two conditions...

So is the point to convince as many Flames fans as you can to be more sad about a trade than they are currently feeling?

Otherwise I don't understand the need to sarcastically attempt to rub people's face in it.

I've said weeks before this trade that the plan was always a pick, a player and a prospect.

The pick should be a first --- check
The player is likely a cap dump but could be an adder --- missing
The prospect is hopefully a B or above --- don't think so

They added another pick.
They may have a line on an unprotected 1st

So this is a plus for the pick column (potential for unprotected), a plus for avoiding the cap dump, and a minus for the prospect because I don't think he's a "B" on any list (5th on McKeen's I think), and a plus for an additional pick that could turn into a 2nd.

You'll excuse some of us for not jumping off a cliff?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

You tell me ... you pulled the scab off it.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You don't like me.

All good.

But why bother poking at it?

It's what he does.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You tell me ... you pulled the scab off it.

I pulled a scab? Not even sure what you mean by that. Please expand.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

It's what he does.

And when he is proven wrong he will double and triple down, go as far as sending trash talk PMs
then accuse everyone else of "raging"
he supposedly put me on ignore but talks about me daily and thanks the post of everyone that disagrees with me on anything...like get a life guy

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

It's what he does.

I responded to one of your posts in 11 years.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1765827455087223217

[Redrum]

Hopefully it slides. By 26 Vegas will suck and Miromanov will be better than Hanifin anyway.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Redrum

Hopefully it slides. By 26 Vegas will suck and Miromanov will be better than Hanifin anyway.

That certainly seems like a leap. They’re the same age.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He wasn't a toss in...its been explained repeatedly.

Yes, explained repeatedly. Not a toss in. Understood. This Kool Aid is delicious.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Yes, explained repeatedly. Not a toss in. Understood. This Kool Aid is delicious.

LOL!!

I guess that's all you have left, so.....burn!

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I pulled a scab? Not even sure what you mean by that. Please expand.

No thanks.

Not going to get into this stupidity.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Yes, explained repeatedly. Not a toss in. Understood. This Kool Aid is delicious.

I mean there has to be something between a toss in and a centerpiece, unless you just want to be mad. Warning though, there is still a lot of unknowns with this trade, posts may not age well.

Hanifin in Tampa, Flames with a pretty high first and a 2nd and the toss in being a regular in a couple years doesn't seem too far fetched IMO.