2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Fighting Banana Slug]

It is soooo quiet. Even another team making a crappy trade would be a welcome break.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I don’t really see it a as a problem if a bunch of young guys popped at the same time. It sounds like a very good problem to have.

I agree that it is much more likely for a trade or two to happen at this draft for the flames that might get them another first round pick and then maybe acquire another first in next years draft later on… that is the typical rebuild schedule. That’s what you usually see from teams and we are much more likely to see from the flames if they go full rebuild.

However, the flames have an opportunity that is very unique and you don’t see this happen very often. I can’t remember that last time any team had this many quality players that could all likely be traded in such a short amount of time and they were all at reasonable cap hits. The closest one to being overpaid is Backlund and he is not really overpaid for what he brings - plus half of his salary could be retained to increase his value. Not to mention the fact that the free agent class is very weak this year. All this adds up to the flames having a rare opportunity to hopefully collect a lot of quality picks in this draft.

If the flames managed to pull off what I proposed and had up to five first round picks in this draft, they could end up speeding up the rebuild a bit. That would be 5 guys from the first round of a highly touted draft with a year of development while the flames are “bottoming out” next season. You’re right the the roster would look very thin for this season which likely leads to a high pick in 2024.

My thought would be… multiple picks in the mid-first round of the 2023 draft + a top 5 pick (the flames own pick) in the 2024 draft could make the turn around a lot faster. That has the makings of a completely new young core in the span of 2 years instead of 4-5 years. Obviously you have to hit well on those picks but this all depends on trusting that your scouts have a good read on these prospects and having the proper development of these young players.


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Mentioned it in a subsequent post, but if the Flames had 5 young players/contracts to contend with in a short period of time, that’s a good problem to have. I was being a bit facetious.

[Ashes]

Originally Posted by TOfan

If the Flames have Lindholm or Hanifin on the market at 50% retained, GM’s would be tripping over themselves.

I don’t think Conroy will have to wait for the last moment. GM’s around the league won’t only be negotiating with the Flsmes, they’ll be bidding against one another. The Flames should be in the drivers seat here. Conry may choose to wait as you put it, but if I were in his shoes I would be saying ‘best offer today by X, otherwise we start trimming the field’.

I think today is the day we start seeing some movement across the league. Teams may want to acquire assets in advance of the draft so they can have the option to flip those assets. Waiting until the very last moment can be limiting in certain respects.

I agree that he shouldn't have to wait until the last possible moment, we have a lot of assets that teams would covet but the closer you get to the draft the tighter these teams are probably holding onto their 1st rounders.

I suppose there's also real life to consider, as in these guys are all presumably traveling to Nashville and getting setup today for the draft tomorrow. Maybe the afternoon/evening tonight is filled with trade activity.

Would also be nice if PLD and Hayes can get traded asap so that all eyes are on the Flames UFA's. If Detroit ends up acquiring Debrincat without using their 17th overall I still believe that would be a great landing spot for Lindholm.

[Chonger]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

San Jose is drafting 4OA and they have a Norris winning defenceman who put up 100+ points.



They also had Couture, Hertl, and almost a full year of Meier.

You're turning another major asset into another unmovable contract. To still not put forth a contender or even a playoff team. Why? Focus on asset management and make the smart moves. This seems so simple and obvious to everyone yet I'm prepared for them to run this back and retool.

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[Hockey_Ninja]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673703909142024192

Pat knows something…..

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

At work today and it looks like a boring one.

Help me Sec214, you're my only hope.

[Robbob]

I think the GMs are playing a game of chicken and seeing if they can use the draft as line in the sand to get Conroy to take less. I think we need another GM to blink first and start that conversation to get the rest of the peers to the table and start that bidding war.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673703909142024192

Pat knows something…..

Sec is Pat. Confirmed.

[Ashasx]

also pat

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673573301275295745

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I think the GMs are playing a game of chicken and seeing if they can use the draft as line in the sand to get Conroy to take less. I think we need another GM to blink first and start that conversation to get the rest of the peers to the table and start that bidding war.

Yep, no doubt other GMs smell fresh blood and are testing Conroy to see they can take advantage of the Flames. I hope he doesn't bend. He can't get the reputation that he will just take any bad deal in order to get something done.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

At work today and it looks like a boring one.

Help me Sec214, you're my only hope.

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[Ashes]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

also pat

https://twitter.com/user/status/1673573301275295745

Next 24 hours of Pat Steinberg in Nashville will be fascinating, no doubt about it

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Sec is Pat. Confirmed.

[shotinthebacklund]

all the "insiders" must still be sleeping one off this morning.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

all the "insiders" must still be sleeping one off this morning.

Last night was a Party....

[Party Elephant]

I'm jonesing for that juice

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Last night was a Party....

By all accounts, Nashville is a hell of a place.

[memphusk]

It sure is.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Yep, no doubt other GMs smell fresh blood and are testing Conroy to see they can take advantage of the Flames. I hope he doesn't bend. He can't get the reputation that he will just take any bad deal in order to get something done.

I think there are also quite a few players available league wide, lots of options out there for teams, not just Flames players

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Ashes

Next 24 hours of Pat Steinberg in Nashville will be fascinating, no doubt about it