2015 NHL Draft

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

THN has him at 14 and I think Button is high on him (yes, 9th!), so you know that means the Flames like him too...

P.S. I think Boeser is "our" guy, unless, obviously, somebody ahead of us loves him long time.

could be right. Boeser's numbers this year aren't far off of Connor either. And was great at Ivan Hlinka stats wise whilst wearing the "C".

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

could be right. Boeser's numbers this year aren't far off of Connor either. And was great at Ivan Hlinka stats wise whilst wearing the "C".

Their numbers are pretty far off.

[Gaskal]

Craig's rankings are really odd sometimes, a lot of the defencemen are considerably lower than what a lot of others percieve them to be.

Hanifin at #12, and the mid tiers like Zboril, Jeremy Roy, and Larsson are in the 20's. But seriously, Hanifin at #12. I don't think he'll drop more than 6-7th...

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Craig's rankings are really odd sometimes, a lot of the defencemen are considerably lower than what a lot of others percieve them to be.

Hanifin at #12, and the mid tiers like Zboril, Jeremy Roy, and Larsson are in the 20's. But seriously, Hanifin at #12. I don't think he'll drop more than 6-7th...

His list isn't a prediction of what will happen on draft day. He's not trying to predict the draft, nor is it a concensus built from talking with scouts and GMs around the league.

It's a list he's built that shows who he thinks will be the best NHL players from this draft.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Their numbers are pretty far off.

One had 34 goals in 56 games. The other had 35 goals in 57 games.

Let me guess....your smooth retort will be about other numbers? Or that they are different players? It's a cursory analysis I know. But point is maybe boeser ain't such a silly idea at 15.

[Money Baer]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

One had 34 goals in 56 games. The other had 35 goals in 57 games.

Let me guess....your smooth retort will be about other numbers? Or that they are different players? It's a cursory analysis I know. But point is maybe boeser ain't such a silly idea at 15.

Connor - 46A in 56 games
Boeser - 33A in 57 games

Besides those numbers, Connor's speed and ability to play C is what makes him stand out! But I agree, their numbers aren't that far off.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Money Baer

Connor - 46A in 56 games
Boeser - 33A in 57 games

Besides those numbers, Connor's speed and ability to play C is what makes him stand out! But I agree, their numbers aren't that far off.

I think those two USHL forwards are top 10 talents in this draft. If they were playing in a stronger league this year they'd both be in the top 10 conversation.

Connor will certainly be taken before we pick, but I would be pretty content with Boeser at 15. He is exactly the style of player we are sorely lacking in our prospect pool; big, top line sniper with a RH shot.

[Crumpy-Gunt]

The more I think of it, the more I can see Konecny going surprisingly (to most) high. I think he will be the consolation prize for a team that misses out on the more skilled players like Strome, Marner etc

I think he goes top 10 easily maybe even top 8. Teams will look around and see Gaudreau, Kane, Johnson, and other smaller offensive players making a big difference in the league with their skill and speed - he will be off the board quick. Teams dont care wether so-and-so has him ranked at 33, or someone else has him ranked at 20, they will watch the tape, talk to the scouts and fall in love with him.

He is a fantastic forward. If we didnt already have such a small team I'd say lets move up and get him, he is the BPA outside the top players.

I have it

McDavid
Eichel
Marner
Strome
Hanifin
Konecny
Provorov
Meier
Werenski
Barzal
Svechnikov
Connor
Harkins
Boeser

Some people may laugh at that and say I trust the scouts more - But I think guys like Crouse, Rantanen, and even Zacha who I think is a good player - they dont warrant their high ranking based on play, numbers, progression and skill but they are big players all over 6'3 and 200lbs.

It fuels the debate of big dudes in junior like Ritchie and Smith but I think these players are sometimes ranked higher based on their size. Just as Gaudreau was ranked lower for his size, or lack there-of. Not saying they only dominate in junior because of their man bodies but I think they are a bit overrated as prospects - especially because a 17-18 year old can still grow 2 inches and put on 15lbs of mucle every year untill they fill out. Look at a few of the flames young ones, like Mony and Colborne they look way bigger off the ice than they did a year or 2 ago. Even the (unjustly) hated step child of the franchise Jankowski is growing a lot.

I'd take a player like Merkley or Konecny who is an inch below or above 5'10 but wows me every time I see them with their skill, hard work, vision, skating etc - over a decent player who needs to work on skating and offense/defense but has a fantastic frame and projects to be an nhler based on physical attributes and how they played with other boys who happened to be smaller than them.

Its a very delicate balance between taking the BPA and taking the most NHL ready or NHL style that would translate. Because who knows that BPA some teams pass over could spend a year or two or three gaining weight, maybe a bit of height, refining their game in the AHL and hit the NHL with a vengence kind of like Tyler Johnson did in the last 2 seasons.

In short ... I still dont know who I would take if 1 skilled BPA fell and also 2 bigger power forwards with a good amount of skill fell. Its a tough call im glad I dont have to make.

Say Konecny/Merkley vs Rantanen/Crouse.

Very tough call. The former 2 just magicians on the ice without too many holes in their games asides from size - the latter 2 in my opinion if they were 5'10 and 170 they would be in the 2nd round or later.

Just my opinion.
Would love some feedback.

[FlamesNation23]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

The more I think of it, the more I can see Konecny going surprisingly (to most) high. I think he will be the consolation prize for a team that misses out on the more skilled players like Strome, Marner etc

I think he goes top 10 easily maybe even top 8. Teams will look around and see Gaudreau, Kane, Johnson, and other smaller offensive players making a big difference in the league with their skill and speed - he will be off the board quick. Teams dont care wether so-and-so has him ranked at 33, or someone else has him ranked at 20, they will watch the tape, talk to the scouts and fall in love with him.

He is a fantastic forward. If we didnt already have such a small team I'd say lets move up and get him, he is the BPA outside the top players.

I have it

McDavid
Eichel
Marner
Strome
Hanifin
Konecny
Provorov
Meier
Werenski
Barzal
Svechnikov
Connor
Harkins
Boeser

Some people may laugh at that and say I trust the scouts more - But I think guys like Crouse, Rantanen, and even Zacha who I think is a good player - they dont warrant their high ranking based on play, numbers, progression and skill but they are big players all over 6'3 and 200lbs.

It fuels the debate of big dudes in junior like Ritchie and Smith but I think these players are sometimes ranked higher based on their size. Just as Gaudreau was ranked lower for his size, or lack there-of. Not saying they only dominate in junior because of their man bodies but I think they are a bit overrated as prospects - especially because a 17-18 year old can still grow 2 inches and put on 15lbs of mucle every year untill they fill out. Look at a few of the flames young ones, like Mony and Colborne they look way bigger off the ice than they did a year or 2 ago. Even the (unjustly) hated step child of the franchise Jankowski is growing a lot.

I'd take a player like Merkley or Konecny who is an inch below or above 5'10 but wows me every time I see them with their skill, hard work, vision, skating etc - over a decent player who needs to work on skating and offense/defense but has a fantastic frame and projects to be an nhler based on physical attributes and how they played with other boys who happened to be smaller than them.

Its a very delicate balance between taking the BPA and taking the most NHL ready or NHL style that would translate. Because who knows that BPA some teams pass over could spend a year or two or three gaining weight, maybe a bit of height, refining their game in the AHL and hit the NHL with a vengence kind of like Tyler Johnson did in the last 2 seasons.

In short ... I still dont know who I would take if 1 skilled BPA fell and also 2 bigger power forwards with a good amount of skill fell. Its a tough call im glad I dont have to make.

Say Konecny/Merkley vs Rantanen/Crouse.

Very tough call. The former 2 just magicians on the ice without too many holes in their games asides from size - the latter 2 in my opinion if they were 5'10 and 170 they would be in the 2nd round or later.

Just my opinion.
Would love some feedback.

There is definately a chance the konechy goes higher than expected but if rantanen actually fell to us (slim chances of it happening), there is no way we dont take him. I want to move up just so we can get him. I would lose my mind if he fell to us and we didnt take him.

[JurassicTunga12]

Wild draft. I still don't know who I want, there are lots of good players. I was leaning toward Svechnikov for a while but recently I've been leaning toward Konecny. He reminds me a lot of Parise. I'm probably going lean toward 3 other players by the time the draft comes around.

[dammage79]

Just forwards:

McDavid
Eichel

Strome

Marner
Barzal
Rantanen

Guryanov
Connor
Zacha
Svechnikov
Meier
Konecny

Merkley
Crouse

If anyone is over ranked due to size it's Crouse.
Rantanen is the real deal IMO.
Guryanov would be up there with Barzal and Marner save for the Rooskie factor.

Defensemen:
Hanifin
Provorov

Werenski
Kylington

Zboril
Roy

Carlo
Carlsson

And Chabot still gets skipped over bey a couple of others.

[Vulcan]

Well if we can't get the defenceman we want I hope the predictions that Crouse is going to drop to us comes true.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Well if we can't get the defenceman we want I hope the predictions that Crouse is going to drop to us comes true.

He would be a godsend to this team at 15th overall. He's gonna be gone real early methinks

[Money Baer]

Sorry if it has already been discussed/answered, but does anyone know what prospects Calgary invited back from the draft to interview again?

I remember in 2013 we interviewed Monahan, Klimchuk, Petan, etc.

[iLoveLamp]

Originally Posted by Money Baer

Sorry if it has already been discussed/answered, but does anyone know what prospects Calgary invited back from the draft to interview again?

I remember in 2013 we interviewed Monahan, Klimchuk, Petan, etc.

That won't be leaked until after the draft

[Crumpy-Gunt]

Another idea. I cant remember who posted it but I remember seeing statistics for the round a player is drafted in and the likelihood of them being an NHL regular. Drops after the 1st round drops a lot after the 2nd round.

How would you guys feel if we kept our 15th pick and made 2 trades to aquire 2 more top 30 picks.

Say 2nd + 3rd + Granlund for 20 overall.
2nd + 3rd + klimchuk + reinhart for 7th overall. or 2nd + 3rd + backlund for 7th overall

Obviously this isnt a realistic scenario but IF we could do that and did it. How would you guys feel about it? After all first rounders are much more likely to make the NHL and be impactful players.

Imagine leaving this draft with Werenski, Merkley, Carlo. 3 of the top 30-35 players in the draft. Or another 3 like Konecny, Svechnikov, Roy, or even Crouse, Zboril, Carlsson.

You get the point. How do you guys feel about that, or would you prefer taking 1 top 15 and using our picks more or less to see if anyone of value our scouts like drops to us.

I would be very interested to see if we can grab another 1st rounder, obviously grabbing 2 more would be a bit ridiculous.

But maybe we can grab another pick in the mid 1st round or even top 10 if the rumours that the Avs and Devils are open to moving their picks are true.

That would be incredible as the top 20 of this draft could produce some very very good players in this league. A lot of names jump out at me as potential sleepers in this 1st round - I think theres a much bigger story unfolding than just McDavid/Eichel.

Carlo seems like a fantastic prospect. Svechnikov seems unreal. Konecny is obviously a top 5 player in the draft if it was based solely on skill. Some Swedes and Russians in the late 1st to 2nd seem very promising, theres still the highly touted Bracco, Kyle Connor looks like he is ready to tear the NCAA up with Michigan, Colin White looks like a good prospect.

So much to LOVE in the top 20-30. Yes there is a drop after 4-5, and another drop after 10-12 but theres still some quality players outside the top 15 ranked prospects. I'd be all for trying to get another 1st and I'm sure Brad has been working his tail off to see if it is at all possible. I know he really wanted another 1st at the deadline.

I know people hate the idea of moving him but... Wideman? ....
I think he should be traded while his value is at a peak and I doubt he has a better statistical season than that last one untill he retires. I love what he's done for us but if we can snag a 1st for him on draft day.. I say do it!

Hudler - thats a different story. Keep him unless someone blows our doors off.

[iLoveLamp]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Another idea. I cant remember who posted it but I remember seeing statistics for the round a player is drafted in and the likelihood of them being an NHL regular. Drops after the 1st round drops a lot after the 2nd round.

How would you guys feel if we kept our 15th pick and made 2 trades to aquire 2 more top 30 picks.

Say 2nd + 3rd + Granlund for 20 overall.
2nd + 3rd + klimchuk + reinhart for 7th overall. or 2nd + 3rd + backlund for 7th overall

Neither of those trades would happen because this is not a video game

[sureLoss]

6 sleeps!

[heep223]

I have to admit I'm not usually a draft junkie but this year's draft is more exciting than previous years. In general with the depth and seeming lack of consensus, and re the Flames the amount of picks they have and seeing what Treliving has up his sleeve. I'll be watching intently this year.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Well if we can't get the defenceman we want I hope the predictions that Crouse is going to drop to us comes true.

He skates well for his size and has a physical dimension but I'm not convinced he'll be more than a 3rd liner.