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Old 01-08-2026, 09:28 AM   #19521
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If you’re saying that the Jets are in full tank mode, does that mean they will be selling off vets? If so, that floods the market and makes it harder for us to get value for our assets…
Not for Razz. There's no RHS D men on the Jets teams would rather. At this season's cap hit fully retained, he carries all the value by a pretty big margin. What it does mean though is the hopefully folk who want to see Coleman or Kadri traded, are S. O. L


But one could argue there's not really any player like Kadri or Coleman on the Jets that they'd trade away either. And Coleman with an extra year fully retained as well? I think teams are still lining up at the Flames door to get him over a Jet.
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Old 01-08-2026, 09:34 AM   #19522
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If Robert Thomas is really on the trade block, he should be number one on a list of desirable available assets. On a good team, he is easily a PPG player. If the Wennberg and Dvorak contracts are an indication of how tight the center market is, then getting Thomas for five more years in the prime of his career at just $2 million AAV more than Wennberg should have every team who is in their competitive window interested.
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Old 01-08-2026, 09:36 AM   #19523
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If Robert Thomas is really on the trade block, he should be number one on a list of desirable available assets. On a good team, he is easily a PPG player. If the Wennberg and Dvorak contracts are an indication of how tight the center market is, then getting Thomas for five more years in the prime of his career at just $2 million AAV more than Wennberg should have every team who is in their competitive window interested.
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Old 01-08-2026, 09:39 AM   #19524
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Not for Razz. There's no RHS D men on the Jets teams would rather. At this season's cap hit fully retained, he carries all the value by a pretty big margin. What it does mean though is the hopefully folk who want to see Coleman or Kadri traded, are S. O. L


But one could argue there's not really any player like Kadri or Coleman on the Jets that they'd trade away either. And Coleman with an extra year fully retained as well? I think teams are still lining up at the Flames door to get him over a Jet.
I agree, but it depends on which players they are selling.

Agreed on Andersson, they have no righties on his level.
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Old 01-08-2026, 09:41 AM   #19525
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Jets comments were more tongue in cheek, they're free falling down the standings something fierce but haven't made any moves to indicate a tank... just the team performing poorly, or is it a coaching problem? I don't know.

But they've chased playoff success for years now without getting any, all their guys are locked up long term and they don't have the assets to turn it around quickly. Just a bad situation for them sadly.
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Jets comments were more tongue in cheek, they're free falling down the standings something fierce but haven't made any moves to indicate a tank... just the team performing poorly, or is it a coaching problem? I don't know.

But they've chased playoff success for years now without getting any, all their guys are locked up long term and they don't have the assets to turn it around quickly. Just a bad situation for them sadly.
If I'm the Jets I'm just hoping it's a bad year (which happens). Take the high pick, which could be really beneficial and resist the temptation to tear things down.
Bad seasons happen.
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Old 01-08-2026, 09:48 AM   #19527
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Mangiapane being #2 is hilarious. That’s like saying Beecher is a top trade chip
I like Mangiapane, but I don't see teams lining up for an undersized declining winger. He doesn't just eat bread, he eats up 3.6 million in cap for the next 1.5 years. The Oilers are going to have to retain or add a sweetener to make it happen.
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If you’re saying that the Jets are in full tank mode, does that mean they will be selling off vets? If so, that floods the market and makes it harder for us to get value for our assets…
I'm guessing it's more so they think the season is lost, so it's more of a reset. Let Helly get the time off he needs to fully heal and rest, don't add anything to the line up, and reset it for next year. They still have all their core locked up long term, I can't see them trading anyone of significance (other than maybe character guys like Lowry or tweak their bottom pairing dmen).
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Everybody seems to trip over themselves to help the oilers lately I dont know how they are moving these bad deals out so easily. They actually got a pick for Kane on 5 mil a year who will score 10-15 goals. I get that there is more cap space but on principle you should still require an asset from the oilers to help them out of cap jail
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Old 01-08-2026, 09:58 AM   #19530
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Everybody seems to trip over themselves to help the oilers lately I dont know how they are moving these bad deals out so easily. They actually got a pick for Kane on 5 mil a year who will score 10-15 goals. I get that there is more cap space but on principle you should still require an asset from the oilers to help them out of cap jail
Its total tinfoil hate stuff from me, but I would not be shocked if Katz is spending money under the table to get this stuff done.

Edit - I accidentally put hate rather than hat but its a pretty accurate Freudian slip i think so I won't change it.

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I personally hope the Jets don't take the measured approach and do something like panic fire their coach. Need that new coach bump to get them out of last place.
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How in the hell do the jets go from presidents trophy winners to dead last in the league in one season?
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Old 01-08-2026, 10:07 AM   #19533
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I read somewhere that the flames will have 17 mill in available cap space at the deadline, not taking into account the potential of players being moved out in Andersson, Coleman and Kadri. If Andersson is a futures driven deal and Coleman is as well, that available cap space at the trade deadline could really be leveraged by Calgary. Take on bad contracts at a price of futures and we could really see an expedited rebuild here heading into the final season in the dome. Honestly, the timing couldn’t be more perfect for the Flames, hopefully they take full advantage of the opportunity.
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Its total tinfoil hate stuff from me, but I would not be shocked if Katz is spending money under the table to get this stuff done.
Wouldnt it be amazing if the NHL uncovered something like that and made them forfeit a 1st rounder?
Won't happen as long as they have Mcdavid though
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I could see the Jets being poised to pull a Blues from 2019 (go from last in the league to a playoff spot not necessarily wining the cup) and if they can get a new coach bump and maybe add some secondary scoring they get back to being a top team. Biggest challenge with that is their best hopes would be to get the 1st wildcard and get into the Pacific division bracket because they have almost no chance at all of catching the top 3 in the central nor do they have a shot at getting past 2 of those teams in the playoffs.
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Old 01-08-2026, 10:08 AM   #19536
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I read somewhere that the flames will have 17 mill in available cap space at the deadline, not taking into account the potential of players being moved out in Andersson, Coleman and Kadri. If Andersson is a futures driven deal and Coleman is as well, that available cap space at the trade deadline could really be leveraged by Calgary. Take on bad contracts at a price of futures and we could really see an expedited rebuild here heading into the final season in the dome. Honestly, the timing couldn’t be more perfect for the Flames, hopefully they take full advantage of the opportunity.
Tougher now. There just aren't the same number of teams that are in bad cap situations. You might be able to squeeze out a 3rd or something, but I don't think weaponizing cap is as big an opportunity as it was in the past.
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It was always an overblown opportunity, and the team that bit the worst on that was us. No one else came close to paying what we did.
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If I'm the Jets I'm just hoping it's a bad year (which happens). Take the high pick, which could be really beneficial and resist the temptation to tear things down.
Bad seasons happen.
Especially this year. The compressed schedule has wrecked all types of random havoc on the season.
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Tougher now. There just aren't the same number of teams that are in bad cap situations. You might be able to squeeze out a 3rd or something, but I don't think weaponizing cap is as big an opportunity as it was in the past.
I think the added wrinkle of having to be cap compliant for the playoffs pushes back on that notion slightly. If there is a player on a contender that is a bloated contract that isn’t performing I could see the motivation to move the player off the roster ahead of the playoffs. Especially teams who have big stars on the IR who could be ready come playoffs.
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If I'm the Jets I'm just hoping it's a bad year (which happens). Take the high pick, which could be really beneficial and resist the temptation to tear things down.
Bad seasons happen.
At least they still have their own 1st. With how hard they've been going to try and make noise in the playoffs they easily could have traded it away last season.

They really don't have much to offer other teams. Nyquist and Schenn are 36 and I would say are not really competitive with Coleman and Andersson in any way. Maybe they move Niederreiter? He has another year left on his contract but maybe he could bring back something good.
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