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Old 08-21-2024, 12:03 PM   #19521
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It worked when Walz first pointed at it because it came across as genuine. Now it feels a bit forced and stale, what with everyone saying it. But it still seems to be eliciting the desired reaction; I mean, they keep getting weirder, with the JD Vance semen donor cup thing being the most egregious example.

It's kind of inverted the "pwn the libs" thing from 2016, now it's "pwn the MAGAs".
I think it works well because it doesn’t obligate fence sitters to take a side or change a belief. In 2016 everytime they said or did something anti-norm there was moral outrage. This led to people feeling attacked and then defending Trump saying that’s not what he meant. The their wierd line of attack is much softer. It’s more hey do you really want to be associated with this guy. So I think it’s less likely to induce a defensive response

It’s also a nuance free attack, you don’t need to explain anything whereas to defend yourself you need to explain wierd behaviour which takes nuance.

It also allows the Dems to focus on what they will do
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I don't think the "weird" thing was a planned thing. Walz said it and the media was like ..."wh wh whaaaat?! No one's ever used this word before! What is this word WEIRD?! WHAT DOES IT MEAAAAAN?????!?!" And now the Democrats are rolling with it to, yes, nauseating affect.

Really people keep repeating it because it's the most polite way to say "that's f***ed up". Which I wish one of them would just say it would be awesome.
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"Weird" is easy, doesn't require a verbose explanation. Democrats need to simplify their message.

Did you hear Trump's answer for how he'll lower inflation (even though his tariffs will do the opposite)?

"Vote for Trump"

We're living out Idiocracy right now.
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Old 08-21-2024, 12:47 PM   #19524
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lol we have to live in a simulation! This is stupid.
Okay we got a screencap, but no one actually posted the video??? Ya'll slippin

https://twitter.com/user/status/1826054116763906486
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Very random, but I had finished lunch with my colleague who is Jewish and we were talking about Bernie as we walked back to the office and he called Bernie a self-hating Jew, saying most Jews would agree with that take. Didn't get a chance to follow up and ask why as we then ran into some colleagues, but is this an actual thing? I know Bernie isn't supportive of the current Israeli government, but I can't imagine that's the only reason.
I'm sure that's true of orthodox or ultra-orthodox Jews, but in my experience most Jewish people tend to be much closer to Bernie in their political leanings, issues around Israel notwithstanding.
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I'm sure that's true of orthodox or ultra-orthodox Jews, but in my experience most Jewish people tend to be much closer to Bernie in their political leanings, issues around Israel notwithstanding.
Thanks, that's what I would have thought, but my colleague threw me off with his comment, and he isn't close to an orthodox Jew!
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Any Canadian passive/Reform Jew that grew up in the B'Nai Brith ecosystem has a pretty good chance about being mad about "as a Jews/self-hating Jews" nowadays.

Best to just smile and nod and change the subject.
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RealClear betting odds tracker has this back to a tie. Harris was up as much as 8% earlier, now 0.3% following some close or tied polls in various swing states including PA.

Shapiro apparently going on tonight before Clinton and Walz.
Hopefully the Shapiro pass doesn't burn em
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Old 08-21-2024, 01:49 PM   #19529
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Alt right celebrities working overtime the past week, bootlicking for Trump. Elon also put up a poll asking straight up who you'd vote for, which unshockingly has 76% voting Trump.

The right is getting scared now that they don't gave their punching bag Biden to dummy for all their material and jokes, along with Trump himself coming kff more and more Biden-y with each passing week.
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Old 08-21-2024, 01:52 PM   #19530
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What Georgia did during the DNC roll call was nothing short of amazing!
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Okay we got a screencap, but no one actually posted the video??? Ya'll slippin

https://twitter.com/user/status/1826054116763906486

lol I didn’t even think to record it, just snapped a photo when he rolled out.


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Old 08-21-2024, 02:18 PM   #19532
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RealClear betting odds tracker has this back to a tie. Harris was up as much as 8% earlier, now 0.3% following some close or tied polls in various swing states including PA.
I don't know about in general, but I recall betting odds being a pretty poor predictor in 2020. In the summer/fall of 2020 in the RCP betting odds, Biden went from +25 to +0.5 a month later, and then +24 a month after that. On those same dates, his polling aggregate went from +7.4 to +7.2 to +7.4.

And for most of that period, changing betting odds did a poor job of predicting polling changes, as the latter normally went in the opposite direction. So when the spread increased in betting odds, the poll spread tended to narrow. And when the betting odds spread decreased, Biden usually increased his polling lead after that.
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Old 08-21-2024, 02:27 PM   #19533
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Barack is just spittin' fire now too. Must-watch TV atm.
Loved his point about only hearing about Trump's problems since 2016. All that guy ever talks about is how hard-done-by he is, not the American people
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both Barack and Michelle gave outstanding speeches. Such insanely talented and captivating speakers, the both of them.
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This was basically the whole portion of his speech that dealt directly with Trump. Didn't spend a ton of time on him, overall.
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Too bad RFK would have split the alt-right vote
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Old 08-21-2024, 03:27 PM   #19537
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Just listened to both Obamas speak. Michelle may actually be the better speaker.
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Even Rasmussen (usually skews pretty heavily for Republicans) has Harris up in Wisconsin by a point. And the poll came out after only 1 night of the DNC. I think Harris will enjoy a sizeable bump in the polls once the DNC is complete. It may not last, but I still think her chances of winning this election are well above 50%. When you consider that NC, GA, AZ, and NV are all in play now, and even FL is showing signs of not being as safe as once thought, it could be difficult for Trump to get to 270.
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Trump getting slaughtered at the polls would be amazing.

The energy, and momentum has swung big time. Hopefully the voters who are watching show the same enthusiasm and commitment to hit the polls and vote in November.
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Alt right celebrities working overtime the past week, bootlicking for Trump. Elon also put up a poll asking straight up who you'd vote for, which unshockingly has 76% voting Trump.

The right is getting scared now that they don't gave their punching bag Biden to dummy for all their material and jokes, along with Trump himself coming kff more and more Biden-y with each passing week.
Make no mistake.

Regardless of what happens in this election Elon Musk is coming out November 6th and claiming Trump won and it was stolen.

He didn't spend 44 billion for no reason.

Twitter is now a right wing echo chamber, and it's going to have far reaching effects way beyond what we saw in 2020.
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