2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Sandman]

Out of thanks, but thanks Redhawk!

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Razz and Pops for Krebs and Cozens.

If Kadri would move I'd prefer that.

I like it. I am not a fan of Krebs but I think very highly of Cozens upside.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Sec214

They’re interested in Rasmus, Blake, Naz and Martin but if things get real I think other surprise teams would come to the table.

I’m not saying Calgary is looking to move these guys but teams see a lot of parts here in Calgary.

One team has checked to see if Backlund is available but Craig said No.

That is disappointing about Backlund. He has been a great player for us but he won't be here when we turn the corner. That could also be Backlund though deciding he wants to finish out his career in Calgary. If he would waive though why wouldn't you deal him for futures?

[BigThief]

Some players who aren't stars should be career Flames. Robyn Regehr should've been a career Flame and I think the same of Backlund.

[Junglist]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That is disappointing about Backlund. He has been a great player for us but he won't be here when we turn the corner. That could also be Backlund though deciding he wants to finish out his career in Calgary. If he would waive though why wouldn't you deal him for futures?

Maybe the team offered a 5th for Backlund?

[Junglist]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I like it. I am not a fan of Krebs but I think very highly of Cozens upside.

He’s already peaked in the same year that Thompson and Tuch had career years.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Some players who aren't stars should be career Flames. Robyn Regehr should've been a career Flame and I think the same of Backlund.

I think Backlund more or less made that decision in the off season when he was talking about leaving and he decided to stay.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That is disappointing about Backlund. He has been a great player for us but he won't be here when we turn the corner. That could also be Backlund though deciding he wants to finish out his career in Calgary. If he would waive though why wouldn't you deal him for futures?

I look at teams like Buffalo and Ottawa and Columbus etc… and they’re clearly lacking an ethos and driving player ethic. Players like Backlund have value beyond what he does on the ice. The youngsters on the team still need him as a role model.

If you trade him, you’ll just end up looking for a player like him.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

Man, I'm going to have to push back hard against the crowd saying no to dammage's proposal. Its a great trade for us, and we really need to have some foresight here - Any deal involving Cozens for Andersson in even a somewhat lateral swap is a win for us. It's as close as you can get to a repeat of the Hamilton/Ferland - Lindholm/Hanifin trade.

Yes Andersson is a top-pairing defenseman in his prime right now, but he's also 2 years away from FA and we'd need to lock him in long-term, high-salary, into his mid-30s, which has its obvious risks. Pospisil's style of play, injury history and fan-favorite status is very reminiscent of Ferland in Calgary, who really turned into nothing with Carolina. And his career was eventually cut short by those injuries.

Cozens has all the makings of a 1st line center waiting for a change in scenery before he pops. I don't know if it's the same doubters doubting Cozens as the ones who called Lindholm a "40-pt player" and Necas a "40-pt player". The careers of these types of guys are so eerily similar you can basically predict their career arcs without even claiming to know the future. Once highly toughted young guy struggling in a stale environment gets a change in scenery/usage and pops - it's so common that most GMs on rebuilding teams specifically target these types of players in trade.

The foresight part applies because we want to target and acquire these types of players before they pop. Obviously they wouldn't be available after they pop. You can now make a pretty good argument that not getting Necas in a Tkachuk trade was short-sighted by Tre, or ownership or whoever was in charge, regardless of whether we were trying to compete or rebuild. The exactly same situation may be presenting itself if Cozens is on the table, and we should take advantage of it this time.

The same applies to Krebs, but in a smaller scale (slightly lower ceiling), imo.

I know it was just a suggestion by a poster and we don't know if it's even remotely discussed. I'm just saying if something like this is available, I'd jump on it.

I disagree with Cozens’ upside being a 1st line centre (on a team of consequence, at least), but yeah - when you start factoring in the ages/contract statuses, it’s hard to argue that Cozens + Krebs for Andersson + Kadri wouldn’t be a strong move for the Flames.

Sign me up.

[My2Cents]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I look at teams like Buffalo and Ottawa and Columbus etc… and they’re clearly lacking an ethos and driving player ethic. Players like Backlund have value beyond what he does on the ice. The youngsters on the team still need him as a role model.

If you trade him, you’ll just end up looking for a player like him.

I am fine trading Backlund if someone offers a lot. But I would expect its a case where he is worth more to the flames than the market. He is worth more than a second or whatever you would get.

Better let him ride out his career here and go down as a Flame legend.

[My2Cents]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

Man, I'm going to have to push back hard against the crowd saying no to dammage's proposal. Its a great trade for us, and we really need to have some foresight here - Any deal involving Cozens for Andersson in even a somewhat lateral swap is a win for us. It's as close as you can get to a repeat of the Hamilton/Ferland - Lindholm/Hanifin trade.

Yes Andersson is a top-pairing defenseman in his prime right now, but he's also 2 years away from FA and we'd need to lock him in long-term, high-salary, into his mid-30s, which has its obvious risks. Pospisil's style of play, injury history and fan-favorite status is very reminiscent of Ferland in Calgary, who really turned into nothing with Carolina. And his career was eventually cut short by those injuries.

Cozens has all the makings of a 1st line center waiting for a change in scenery before he pops. I don't know if it's the same doubters doubting Cozens as the ones who called Lindholm a "40-pt player" and Necas a "40-pt player". The careers of these types of guys are so eerily similar you can basically predict their career arcs without even claiming to know the future. Once highly toughted young guy struggling in a stale environment gets a change in scenery/usage and pops - it's so common that most GMs on rebuilding teams specifically target these types of players in trade.

The foresight part applies because we want to target and acquire these types of players before they pop. Obviously they wouldn't be available after they pop. You can now make a pretty good argument that not getting Necas in a Tkachuk trade was short-sighted by Tre, or ownership or whoever was in charge, regardless of whether we were trying to compete or rebuild. The exactly same situation may be presenting itself if Cozens is on the table, and we should take advantage of it this time.

The same applies to Krebs, but in a smaller scale (slightly lower ceiling), imo.

I know it was just a suggestion by a poster and we don't know if it's even remotely discussed. I'm just saying if something like this is available, I'd jump on it.

While I dont disagree with anything you are saying, but I do you think you have to look at the other potential offers. Of course trading Anderson for something is good, but is it Cozens or is it a first+.

More options than trading Andersson for Cozens or not trading him.

I still would rather futures than Cozens. I feel like a Cozens trade could be amazing or could be a disaster. Its just a gamble that we dont need to take at this point of the rebuild.

[kyuss275]

I just don’t get where all this cozens talk is coming from? After trading middelstat last year I find it very very unlikely they will trade another center.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Some players who aren't stars should be career Flames. Robyn Regehr should've been a career Flame and I think the same of Backlund.

Regehr won a Cup. That wasn't happening here. Same with Backlund. He's never winning a Cup here.

[Sec214]

Very early here in Toronto but I’m hearing the flames have some serious interest in Byram. These conversations are starting to develop.

Edit: I’ll remain I don’t think anything is close but as Royal said the two teams are in what I would consider above normal frequency communication.

Can confirm no offers from either side have been pitched. Off to STL.

[Svartsengi]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Very early here in Toronto but I’m hearing the flames have some serious interest in Byram. These conversations are starting to develop.

Edit: I’ll remain I don’t think anything is close but as Royal said the two teams are in what I would consider above normal frequency communication.

Can confirm no offers from either side have been pitched. Off to STL.

What’s taking place in St.Louis?

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Very early here in Toronto but I’m hearing the flames have some serious interest in Byram. These conversations are starting to develop.

Edit: I’ll remain I don’t think anything is close but as Royal said the two teams are in what I would consider above normal frequency communication.

Can confirm no offers from either side have been pitched. Off to STL.

I haven’t seen Byram in Buffalo, so I don’t know how he’s developed while there but during his Colorado days he was a grade A prospect. While I’m also not a fan of Couzens upside, and would rather have a swap option from Buffalo over the next three years, I do think a Cousins, Byram, 2nd for Anderssen, Kadri sounds about as good as it’d get. I’m just guessing because I haven’t seen Byram play in awhile.

[Vinny01]

When I had Twitter I was following an account called Western Hockey Scout and that person is a Flames fan but definitely seemed to work or used to work in scouting. I saw a tweet where he was absolutely shredding Byram recently. Can’t play defense at all, and has attitude issues and wouldn’t interview with several teams heading into the draft. Take that for what it is worth which could be nothing?

[SuperMatt18]

Andersson + ??? For Cozens + Byram is a bit of the Hamilton/Lindholm/Hanifin trade re-done

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

When I had Twitter I was following an account called Western Hockey Scout and that person is a Flames fan but definitely seemed to work or used to work in scouting. I saw a tweet where he was absolutely shredding Byram recently. Can’t play defense at all, and has attitude issues and wouldn’t interview with several teams heading into the draft. Take that for what it is worth which could be nothing?

That doesn't sound good, but people do change and mature. No one has said this, but hypothetically, if there has been a breakdown in the relationship between the Sabres and Byram, perhaps it could be an opportunity for the Flames to take a risk and get some top-end talent?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Andersson + ??? For Cozens + Byram is a bit of the Hamilton/Lindholm/Hanifin trade re-done

Several pages ago the deal some of us were tossing around was Pospisil as the add from the Flames end. Personally I would make that deal. Agreed it is similar to the Lindholm/Hanifin swap getting 2 former high picks you hope can pop.