Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Smith walking around like she’s some big #### and the tariffs are coming. Can’t wait to see the losers who are celebrating her like she’s some great leader when the tariffs hit. She’s nothing but a piece of crap Trump walks over.

Devastating financial and economic consequences are likely coming to Alberta but that’s what you can’t wait for? Strange.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

negotiate, like adults

I mean they did the last time he was in power, hence the new trade agreement. Which is being ignored, soo now what?

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I mean they did the last time he was in power, hence the new trade agreement. Which is being ignored, soo now what?

Weird that the USMCA seems to be ignored here. I guess Trump is effectively tearing it up, legal or not. The only thing I could find is that it’s subject to mandatory review in 2026.

[Fuzz]

It's not weird, it's dementia.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Devastating financial and economic consequences are likely coming to Alberta but that’s what you can’t wait for? Strange.

It’s coming to Canada not just Alberta.

Don’t be upset at me I’m not the idiot celebrating Trump and his raping ways in every thread like some lunatic.

When the country united to fight back she was in DC watching his inauguration on TV like the complete idiot she is.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It’s coming to Canada not just Alberta.

Don’t be upset at me I’m not the idiot celebrating Trump and his raping ways in every thread like some lunatic.

When the country united to fight back she was in DC watching his inauguration on TV like the complete idiot she is.

You know Governor Trudeau is a he, right?

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

negotiate, like adults

I'm going to go ahead and assume that negotiation is part of the response plan. ..

[Manhattanboy]

Might have to check Bet365 to see where this might be going.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

negotiate, like adults

I think on something like it's kind of hard to really negotiate in a lot of ways. What would be considered a win? 15 % instead of 25%? How does Canada deal with a force that is designed to completely alter American life?

For Americans, America First, MAGA, rebuilding America and making sure that the little guy who has been screwed over for generations, the goal is tariffs and rebuilding the American economy and people.

America will tariff countries like Canada, China, Mexico in order to onboard millions more jobs of high quality nature back to America. Jobs that pay very well with no post secondary education and allow people to move up the class chain. Hard work should allow economic mobility upward, currently that is not the case.

Trump's tariffs are suppose to result in your job and mine effectively being moved to America if we are involved in the sectors being targeted by Trump.

The goal is for America to produce a lot more domestically speaking and export that outwards. You and I are suppose to be able to go to Wal-Mart soon and effectively buy Made in America goods at a fair price. We are suppose to be able to buy an iPhone and Apple products that are made in America for a similar cost. The MAGA people are sick of the elites and are suppose to be laser focused on the little guy. There is not suppose to be an obsession with executive compensation and stock market valuation, those days are over as of Day #1 if you follow the doctrine of MAGA and America first.

Now a lot of people both right and left and even a lot of Trump supporters argue the above but that is the goal. The goal is to uplift tens of millions of low and middle income people from the depth of despair to a better economic future. China is obsessed with taking people from the rice fields and making them middle class. America has been obsessed with keeping tens of millions in poverty and beholden to slave living conditions. If Trump doesn't do the above, then what was the point of 14+ years of noise about it if it doesn't happen? For the same nonsense just with someone else?

We got a lot of competing priorities and it won't be pretty.

[Manhattanboy]

The challenge will be trying to convince Trump’s trade advisors that tariffs will hinder not help to achieve their desired results in many states and sectors. It’s hard to negotiate against ideology.

[Bonded]

The issue is that there has to be willingness in the general public to pay higher costs for good and faith in the government that the rules won’t change if the Republicans lose control of the house and senate in two years.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Makarov

I'm going to go ahead and assume that negotiation is part of the response plan. ..

Just as long as it isn’t with the other provinces in an effort to further Alberta’s interests.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

The challenge will be trying to convince Trump’s trade advisors that tariffs will hinder not help to achieve their desired results in many states and sectors. It’s hard to negotiate against ideology.

I know I sound like a broken-record but I just dont think these Tariffs are real.

I dont think they ever were nor ever will be.

Its a pure negotiation tactic and he just never found someone smart enough to call him on it which to me is insane because I've known people with 'Pet Rocks' smarter than ol' Donny Drumpf.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I think on something like it's kind of hard to really negotiate in a lot of ways. What would be considered a win? 15 % instead of 25%? How does Canada deal with a force that is designed to completely alter American life?

For Americans, America First, MAGA, rebuilding America and making sure that the little guy who has been screwed over for generations, the goal is tariffs and rebuilding the American economy and people.

America will tariff countries like Canada, China, Mexico in order to onboard millions more jobs of high quality nature back to America. Jobs that pay very well with no post secondary education and allow people to move up the class chain. Hard work should allow economic mobility upward, currently that is not the case.

Trump's tariffs are suppose to result in your job and mine effectively being moved to America if we are involved in the sectors being targeted by Trump.

The goal is for America to produce a lot more domestically speaking and export that outwards. You and I are suppose to be able to go to Wal-Mart soon and effectively buy Made in America goods at a fair price. We are suppose to be able to buy an iPhone and Apple products that are made in America for a similar cost. The MAGA people are sick of the elites and are suppose to be laser focused on the little guy. There is not suppose to be an obsession with executive compensation and stock market valuation, those days are over as of Day #1 if you follow the doctrine of MAGA and America first.

Now a lot of people both right and left and even a lot of Trump supporters argue the above but that is the goal. The goal is to uplift tens of millions of low and middle income people from the depth of despair to a better economic future. China is obsessed with taking people from the rice fields and making them middle class. America has been obsessed with keeping tens of millions in poverty and beholden to slave living conditions. If Trump doesn't do the above, then what was the point of 14+ years of noise about it if it doesn't happen? For the same nonsense just with someone else?

We got a lot of competing priorities and it won't be pretty.

You understand these two things(bold) are not at all compatible, right?

And to the blue bit, do you think this? Or are you saying it is what they think? Either way, it's a hilariously misguided point, when Trump and his fellow billionaires all take front billing at the inauguration. Like, who the #### do you think Trump is working for? It's one of the dumbest things MAGAs think, but that'll all get sorted out when half of them are deported and the other half lose their food stamps. Then they can wonder why the billionaires have doubled their wealth, and they are paying $8 a gallon for gas.

[chemgear]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1881411149822099496

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You understand these two things(bold) are not at all compatible, right?

And to the blue bit, do you think this? Or are you saying it is what they think? Either way, it's a hilariously misguided point, when Trump and his fellow billionaires all take front billing at the inauguration. Like, who the #### do you think Trump is working for? It's one of the dumbest things MAGAs think, but that'll all get sorted out when half of them are deported and the other half lose their food stamps. Then they can wonder why the billionaires have doubled their wealth, and they are paying $8 a gallon for gas.

I think we are in for a very interesting 4 years and in a period of time that is changing globally. Trump and the Republican's have an opportunity ahead of them that is very unique that has almost never happened in American history. A former President is returning to the office without any re-election concerns (in theory) and has Senate, House and Supreme Court mostly on their side. I am not saying that this level of power is good but it is unique.

I think that if Trump and company are laser focused on the little guy and actually uplifting and rebuilding America and parts of America that are currently economically depressed, it will be interesting for sure.

There are a lot of policies that could be game changing and others that are mostly for show. I don't know how good or bad this will be and we will know more over the coming months and years.

Bringing it back to Canadian politics, it's apparent that amateur hour should be over for all of Canada. Canadian business, business owners, policies, interprovincial trade barriers, new markets and a smarter way of doing things. Ideologies need to go out the door and we need to expand our economic standing for ourselves and improve our future. I have said it before and I will say it again, We Canadian's are beyond moronic and I really hope this wake up call from America allows us to see it and actually move forward united, smart, with business, security and economic issues at the front.

[Firebot]

Trudeau is still leader right now and has said he will only resign once a new leader is chosen. He has not resigned yet. He could do a reverse uno and just decide to stick around.

They are still all part of the same party and have a country to run and they are swinging at each other on national TV while calling current policies they enacted as garbage.

What a total debacle, and some folks here actually prefer this over an election and potential of someone else taking over.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I think that if Trump and company are laser focused on the little guy and actually uplifting and rebuilding America and parts of America that are currently economically depressed, it will be interesting for sure.

Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Pichai, Ambani etc all with (almost) front-row seats at Trump's inauguration.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I think that if Trump and company are laser focused on the little guy and actually uplifting and rebuilding America and parts of America that are currently economically depressed, it will be interesting for sure.

Did you see who was front and center today earlier today? Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg. Not exactly the working class heroes in the country.

He doesn't care about the little guy. He doesn't need their votes anymore. He cares about himself, his ego, his wallet. That's it. The grift is on and he doesn't care about anybody but himself.

[Bonded]

Well CAD and canola are weaker but ES came back after falling half a percent. Seems like the market is confused as well