World Cup South Africa, 2010 Thread

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

As has been said, if you find the Italian's embarrassing you must hate football because this game has been no better or worse than any of the other games I've watched so far this tourney.

Simulation is an accepted part of football in most parts of the world. It might affect the integrity to some but for most of the world it isn't a big deal. Heck, France's goal in the 06 final was a blatant dive and it didn't effect the integrity of the game in most people's eyes. Even the play by play guys go along with the diving and will describe a play as heinous even if a blatant dive.

I find diving by all teams embarrassing. The Italians look to be rather more willing to do it, or at least more obvious, than most all teams i have watched thus far.

Funny you bring up the commentators though...as they have been hammering on the italians for doing just that.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

I know but it's frustrating, not only the lack of execution but lack of effort too.

Well, not going to argue there. I'd imagine that if you know that this will be your one and only shot in your career (which in reality is the case), you'd be pretty amped.

[transplant99]

What a freakin save.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Diving = fighting when talking integrity of the game. OK then.

No. You said that diving is not part of the game because it is not in the rulebook. Don't try and change the story now because you are wrong.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Table 5

You and I must be watching a different World Cup. I don't see anything close to this when I watch England, USA, Germany, Denmark, etc.....

LOL

Good one. Anyone that doesn't think those teams dive is lying to themselves.

[CFENT]

Did you just see that massive dive by the NZL player

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Table 5

You and I must be watching a different World Cup. I don't see anything close to this when I watch England, USA, Germany, Denmark, etc.....

You see just as much diving but you don't see quite as much rolling around. However, the rolling around doesn't really mean much because the ref has already made the call and doesn't judge a play based on the amount of time spent rolling around.

It is called bias. People see what they want to see. Some of the teams at this tourney dive less frequently and the Italians do tend to roll around a fair amount but in terms of dives they are simply average. Some teams do dive less, some dive more. Italy is about average, maybe a little on the dives more than others side of things but certainly not enough to justify saying they embarrass the game. That is just silly.


Right as I type this a NZL player is rolling around like he's been shot. I guess I must be imagining that.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I find diving by all teams embarrassing. The Italians look to be rather more willing to do it, or at least more obvious, than most all teams i have watched thus far.

Funny you bring up the commentators though...as they have been hammering on the italians for doing just that.

I am guessing you aren't watching the world feed on CBC because on every Italian "dive" the commentator has been very sympathetic.

[Ark2]

Funny, I don't see Transplant calling NZL a disgrace right now...

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Ark2

LOL

Good one. Anyone that doesn't think those teams dive is lying to themselves.

I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong point. Who said those teams don't dive? It's all a matter of degree. Diving and acting is a shame when anyone does it, but are really trying to say that a team like the English dive and roll around on the same level as the Italians? Where there's smoke there's fire. There's a reason why certain teams earn their reputations.

[Flame Of Liberty]

kiwis dodged the bullet there..twice

[CFENT]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Funny, I don't see Transplant calling NZL a disgrace right now...

Maybe this mystery feed he is watching didn't show the dive.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong point. Who said those teams don't dive? It's all a matter of degree. Diving and acting is a shame when anyone does it, but are really trying to say that a team like the English dive and roll around on the same level as the Italians? Where there's smoke there's fire. There's a reason why certain teams earn their reputations.

My reading comprehension is a lot greater than your comprehension of the game. As for the English, check out Steven Gerrard and tell me that they don't dive and roll around. kthxbai

[Table 5]

That NZ dive was a shame too. The only different is that you will see them do that once or twice a game. The Italians will do it every 5 minutes. At any rate the acting is lame....it's just that a few teams use it as part of their core strategy.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Ark2

kthxbai

Lolz, ur so cute.

[CFENT]

Originally Posted by Table 5

That NZ dive was a shame too. The only different is that you will see them do that once or twice a game. The Italians will do it every 5 minutes. At any rate the acting is lame....it's just that a few teams use it as part of their core strategy.

Every 5 minutes HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Wow are you blind?

[Flame Of Liberty]

daaaamn that was close!

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Table 5

That NZ dive was a shame too. The only different is that you will see them do that once or twice a game. The Italians will do it every 5 minutes. At any rate the acting is lame....it's just that a few teams use it as part of their core strategy.

Except the Italians have only done it once or twice this game and not even close to every 5 minutes. Your comprehension of the game is really poor.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by CFENT

Every 5 minutes HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Wow are you blind?

Too far apart?

[Flame Of Liberty]

old man cannavaro almost responsible for a 2nd goal