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Old 12-30-2007, 02:59 PM   #1881
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Ohhh man, I'd love to see a Vikings vs Seahawks game....but I don't think the Redskins lose to the Cowboys today. I guess they had their chance and blew it.
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Old 12-30-2007, 03:19 PM   #1882
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Someone tell Troy Williamson to pack his sht and get out. What a useless receiver. To think that the Vikings could have traded up a few spots to get Braylon Edwards.
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:07 PM   #1883
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Sheesh that was a long half in washington.. penalties.. 3 reviews.. confusion at the end of the half. I think the refs are high :P
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:39 PM   #1884
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Also regarding Bill I wonder what he is like away from football, this could just be his football coach poker face. But probably not...
I imagine most football coaches aren't exactly the rosiest personalities off the field. It's a demanding and time consuming job, and football being the game it is sort of demands that you be a bit of a pr|ck to be successfull. Certainly there are those who do it with class, but thats a select few, and most coaches need that edge to get the intensity going.

I rag on Bellichik as much as anyone (I still think intentionally looking like a hobo is a bad choice) but he really is a tremendous coach. You can tell that his players really respect him and what he does as that team has been a machine for about 6 years now. Football is a take no prisoners sport and the objective of the game is to beat the tar out of your opponent. The Pats didn't have a blowout in about the last 5 weeks of the season save Miami last week and a lot of that was because the other teams figured out you better play hard for 4 quarters against these guys or they will embarrass you. Once teams figured it out, the Pats didn't run up any scores. So as much as myself or anyone ragged on them....it was probably as much or more to do with opposing teams having their will broke and mailing in the last half of the game. Which is something the Pats never did.
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Old 12-30-2007, 05:23 PM   #1885
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Redskins beat the Cowboys 27-6 and are going to the playoffs (eliminating the Vikings in the process, who lost anyways to the Broncos). Also, Pittsburgh loses to Baltimore while San Diego beats Oakland so 11 of the 12 playoff seeds have been determined. Here is what we know:

Official NFC Seedings:

1. Dallas
2. Green Bay
3. Seattle
4. Tampa Bay
5. NY Giants
6. Washington

What we know in the AFC:

1. New England
2. Indianapolis
3. San Diego
4. Pittsburgh
5. Jacksonville
6. Cleveland/Tennessee

NFC Wild Card weekend next week:

NY Giants @ Tampa Bay
Washington @ Seattle

AFC Wild Card weekend next week:

Cleveland/Tennessee @ San Diego
Jacksonville @ Pittsburgh

Only thing to be determined is will it be the Browns or Titans in the playoffs @ San Diego. Tennessee plays Indy in about 40 minutes. Titans win and they are in. Lose and it's Browns @ Chargers next week.

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Old 12-30-2007, 05:24 PM   #1886
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I think we're going to see our first tie of the season. KC and the Jets going to OT and both offences are completely useless and both coaches extremely conservative. The Chiefs should just throw the game so they get like a top 3 pick.
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Old 12-30-2007, 05:33 PM   #1887
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I think we're going to see our first tie of the season. KC and the Jets going to OT and both offences are completely useless and both coaches extremely conservative. The Chiefs should just throw the game so they get like a top 3 pick.
Or not. Jets win 13-10 in OT on a 33 yard FG.

EDIT: Nm, penalty on the play.

Double edit: Jets win 13-10 in OT on a 43 yard FG.

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Old 12-30-2007, 05:58 PM   #1888
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Harrison is out for the Colts after speculation was he would play. This means Manning will be pulled earlier which means the Browns playoff hopes pretty much lie with Jim Sorgi.
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:41 PM   #1889
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OMG! TITANS! This is great! I'm so excited to see my boys back in the playoffs. What a sound game by the boys. Couple fumbles and for a second it looked like they were crumbling with all those penalties but they overcame the injury to Vince Young and got the job done. Bironas is a beast!
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Old 12-30-2007, 09:58 PM   #1890
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Bironas is a beast!
Best kicker in the NFL this season, glad to see that he was recognized and selected to the Pro Bowl.

Well congrats to Bobblehead on winning the Yahoo pool this year. I think in the end you beat AaronSJ by 5 points and you took me out by 9. I had a decent week but the one guy I really needed to beat edged me out and held me off. Unfortunately I made a couple of dumb picks in Jacksonville and New Orleans when I really knew better and that cost me being able to defend my title. Then again so did several poor weeks in the middle of the season that had me lagging at the bottom of the group. Oh well good times again and I look forward to next year.
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Old 12-30-2007, 10:35 PM   #1891
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Boourns, BOOURNS.

I was so looking forward to the browns making the playoffs. Oh well, they shouldn't have lost to Cincinnati. It's just funny to think a team in the NFC who went 8-8 could have made the playoffs while a 10-6 in the AFC gets you a great seat from home for the playoffs.
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Old 12-30-2007, 10:46 PM   #1892
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Didn't get to watch the Broncos today, but you have to think big changes are on the way on defense. It will be interesting to see if they can talk Javon Walker into taking a paycut because clearly Brandon Marshall is the #1 receiver on that team. Another huge game today. I think you can make an argument that he deserves to go to Honolulu. Travis Henry may be out as well. I wouldn't mind.

Still excited about the future and it will be an intersting offseason in Denver. Please, no players die.
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:07 AM   #1893
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Shame on the Colts. The Giants came to play with nothing on the line.

The football gods will shift the Curse on the Browns to the Colts.
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:17 AM   #1894
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I think we're going to see our first tie of the season. KC and the Jets going to OT and both offences are completely useless and both coaches extremely conservative. The Chiefs should just throw the game so they get like a top 3 pick.
I listened to the first half of that game on the radio. It was actually really entertaining. Len Dawson was being very sarcastic and Mitch Holthus was dropping one liners about the Chiefs steller play. Then I got home and watched the second half, reality set in and it was very sad. Glad the Chiefs lost since they moved up in the draft. But it still is a little heart breaking to see your team finish the season with a nine game losing streak.
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:21 AM   #1895
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Shame on the Colts. The Giants came to play with nothing on the line.

The football gods will shift the Curse on the Browns to the Colts.
The Colts do this every year, it is like a pre-season game to them. And their first game of the playoffs they always come out flat early on, then need to fight. I don't like it but it was exactly the way Dungy always does it.


And as a 49ers fan, I just want to say thank you to Bryant Young. An anchor on the defensive line for so long, and the last link to the great teams of the mid-nineties.
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:35 AM   #1896
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Memo to Colts:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../week17/1.html

Re: the Giants, I can just tell you this: The players badly wanted to play. They wanted to be the ones to knock the Patriots off. Tom Coughlin read this situation. He also has a sense for football history and doing what is right for the game. It certainly would not have been right to be playing a cadre of backups in a game this big. And he wanted his offense to get back in a groove before the playoffs. Injuries? He'd risk them. I loved the call. Loved it. Football players should play football, particularly with so much on the line, and coaches should read their players, which Coughlin did so well.

The hearts of both coaches, and both teams, were large on this night. The night was so noble, so exhilarating. Players who didn't have to play, megastars like Strahan and Brady and Moss, wanted to play. The Patriots for perfection and the Giants for the pride of the game.

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Old 12-31-2007, 09:40 AM   #1897
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Like I said earlier....look for the Giants to jump all over the Buccanners early next week. They played in playoff like atmospheres the last couple of weeks here, they're well prepared for the heightened intensity. The Bucs basically rested their team for the past two weeks, I look for them to come out sluggish.
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:46 AM   #1898
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nts/index.html

On the old momentum meter, here's how I'd have my up to the moment rankings at the start of the AFC tournament:

1. New England; 2. Indianapolis; 3. San Diego; 4. Jacksonville; 5. Tennessee; 6. Pittsburgh. I'm pretty certain that's about right.

In the NFC, strangely enough I'd have it: 1. Washington; 2. N.Y. Giants; 3. Seattle; 4. Green Bay; 5. Dallas; 6. Tampa Bay. While we can have differences of opinion in the league's junior varsity conference, it's hard to make the case that anyone in the NFC other than Washington is playing its best ball of the season as the playoffs approach.


While it was great to see the Giants play it to the hilt Saturday night against New England, I've got no qualms with playoff-bound teams like Jacksonville and Green Bay resting a bunch of starters Sunday. It sounds great to pontificate on doing whatever protects the integrity of the game, but with how hugely important the injury factor is in the NFL, doing what you deem best in regards to your team's health is just a common sense approach.

The downside to that approach is that you do risk losing something in terms of the momentum you take into the playoffs. That said, I consider myself very much a traditionalist who wishes every team would play it straight up right down to the last week of the season.
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:09 AM   #1899
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Not sure that the Colts should play they starters all game sentiment would be so strong if Peyton Manning would have been injured on a 4th quarter hit from Kyle Vanden Bosch.

It is great that the Giants played to win even though standingwise it was a mean nothing game but it is a little naive to compare their game versus the Pats to the game the Colts played against the Titans.

It may suck for the Browns but it isn't like the Titans with their starters are any better than the Colts second and third stringers. It wouldn't matter if it were you and me playing CB out there Vince young still couldn't pass the ball consistently enough against us that the Titans would be free and clear.

It will be interesting to see how quickly people forget this so-called "momentum" when Washington is killed by Seattle and Eli returns to form. Somehow I think the teams with actual talent will end up okay and the teams that needed to go all out at the end of the year will still have the same issues winning games in the play-offs that they did in the regular season.
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:18 AM   #1900
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Poor Cleveland. With the Saints out, I was all over the Browns bandwagon for these playoffs. That must be so frustrating to have all your playoff hopes riding on Jim Sorgi.
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