09-17-2013, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by King Hippo
Not only that but just the pure ownage of Jesse, who's been calling everyone a b*tch for years, is now realizing he's been made someone's b*tch.
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This made me laugh
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09-17-2013, 03:57 PM
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#1843
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
How is Todd an exception?
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Todd is a lot smarter, perceptive, and more manipulative than the rest. The rest are thugs, but Todd is a serial killer style psycopath. The rest of the gang and Walt wanted to off Jesse at the first change they got. Todd has the foresight to see that he could break Jesse down and use him as their cook.
Todd manages to turn himself from pest control employee to international drug kingpin pretty quickly. The rest of the gang is just a prison gang who gets shown opportunities by Todd.
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09-17-2013, 05:01 PM
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#1845
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
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BB has me hooked, can't wait for the next episode to see what happens. But there have been many that were a bit boring.
For me, Sopranos was a much more entertaining show. There was just so much more going on. Character development was outstanding and all these side plots kept you tuning in. Early on with the mother, then Janice, Christopher, Paulie, Silvio, Archie, Junior, Johnny Sack, Carmela and the kids...list goes on. All deep characters and great plots. BB has no plots other than Walt, Hank and Jessie. Everything else is so sporadic and there seems to be no continuation. What happened to Jessie's parents after the house deal? That had potential. Saul? Not much there really. He knows a guy that knows another guy. But what else is happening in his life?
Sopranos took a bad turn with that half season during strike and the end few episodes seemed to be disjoined, but overall the show was more complex and entertaining.
I guess we will have to wait to see how BB ends, if it's unique (six sense type of unique) then great, but for now it seems that all plots have died. Jessie is a dead man walking or a slave. Maybe he will be saved by Walt. But what's so exciting about that? Hank angle is done obviously and sadly cause that was a great plot, the family side is done. The Neos? Who cares, really, they just entered the show. Lydia? She made what, 5 appearances in the entire show?
Taking the baby? What was that about? The baby was never a significant character. Everyone loves babies obviously, but the relationship is not as strong as Junior/Hank was. Too bad that was not a bigger part (Hank the Hero trying to jail Junior's Hero, his dad). Or something like that.
Anyways, rambling on, I am ready to be amazed by the last two episodes.
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09-17-2013, 05:02 PM
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#1846
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Lifetime Suspension
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duplicate post.
Last edited by Red; 09-17-2013 at 05:06 PM.
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09-17-2013, 05:20 PM
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#1847
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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The Shield is generally referred to as my favorite TV show of all time, at least by me. That show had fantastic writing and characters. Great acting as well, and a terrific and engaging story line. I rooted for Vic Mackey from start to finish of the series. Nothing he did in the show was bad enough to outweigh the bad ass cop that he was when push came to shove, the loyalty and brotherhood with the Strike Team. I love the show. I will watch it again in its entirety.
Breaking Bad has exceeded my expectations. At this moment, I despise Walter White. He is a cruel and evil egomaniac who, despite my instincts about him early in the series, has managed to do great harm to every single person that the writers and Cranston had made me believe he cared deeply about. Those relationships gave him a pass for all the dirty....until this last episode. And now I sit here anxiously waiting for next Sunday night....and the one after that.... to find out how else this show will blow me away before they put it to bed. And I'm sure Gilligan, Cranston and company will do just that.
Best show ever.
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09-17-2013, 05:28 PM
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#1848
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
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I like Klosterman's article better, but this one's not bad either. I disagree that BB is the best show ever though. I put both The Wire and The Sopranos above it (for now). The Sopranos went on too long and The Wire's final season wasn't as great as the previous, but both were amazing. Their best seasons are better than BB's best, IMO.
The fact that BB has five acts (including an ending) is probably the best part about it. I think we're gonna see some serious Shakespearean tragedy #### go down in the final two episodes. But the author of the article focuses too much on the ending when it hasn't even happened yet. In Vince we trust, yes but you can't judge a show till it's over. So many great stories #### the bed in the final act.
Basically, the fact that BB has a distinct ending doesn't make it the best ever (it certainly helps), it just makes it different (and hopefully game-changing). The fact that Walter changes doesn't make it the best show ever, but maybe it makes him the best TV character ever.
The author says "The water cooler conversation after the finale airs on September 29 will be dominated not by head- scratching analysis, but by slack-jawed awe.", but I don't view this as a positive necessarily. But I loved the final scene in the Sopranos, so what do I know.
I also like Louie a little more than Breaking Bad, so what do I know pt 2.
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09-17-2013, 06:26 PM
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#1849
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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I also wouldn't say that Breaking Bad is "the best show ever." Band of Brothers still tops that chart for me.
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09-17-2013, 06:32 PM
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Crushed
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: The Sc'ank
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I don't know about best show either, but it's certainly up there and it is most certainly delivering before its curtain call.
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09-17-2013, 06:34 PM
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#1851
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Originally Posted by cDnStealth
I also wouldn't say that Breaking Bad is "the best show ever." Band of Brothers still tops that chart for me.
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BoB is definitely top 3 for me but you kind of know where it's going. Well since it's history.
Breaking bad just goes to all these new places.
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09-17-2013, 06:48 PM
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#1852
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Disappointed that we didn't see which scene this would come from:
I guess it was just a concept.
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09-17-2013, 07:01 PM
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#1853
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Red
BB has me hooked, can't wait for the next episode to see what happens. But there have been many that were a bit boring.
For me, Sopranos was a much more entertaining show. There was just so much more going on. Character development was outstanding and all these side plots kept you tuning in. Early on with the mother, then Janice, Christopher, Paulie, Silvio, Archie, Junior, Johnny Sack, Carmela and the kids...list goes on. All deep characters and great plots. BB has no plots other than Walt, Hank and Jessie. Everything else is so sporadic and there seems to be no continuation. What happened to Jessie's parents after the house deal? That had potential. Saul? Not much there really. He knows a guy that knows another guy. But what else is happening in his life?
Sopranos took a bad turn with that half season during strike and the end few episodes seemed to be disjoined, but overall the show was more complex and entertaining.
I guess we will have to wait to see how BB ends, if it's unique (six sense type of unique) then great, but for now it seems that all plots have died. Jessie is a dead man walking or a slave. Maybe he will be saved by Walt. But what's so exciting about that? Hank angle is done obviously and sadly cause that was a great plot, the family side is done. The Neos? Who cares, really, they just entered the show. Lydia? She made what, 5 appearances in the entire show?
Taking the baby? What was that about? The baby was never a significant character. Everyone loves babies obviously, but the relationship is not as strong as Junior/Hank was. Too bad that was not a bigger part (Hank the Hero trying to jail Junior's Hero, his dad). Or something like that.
Anyways, rambling on, I am ready to be amazed by the last two episodes.
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I loved the Soprano's but they really just repeated the same plot line over and over again ever season. Someone in Tony's mob family is out of control and he has to deal with it. Tension escalates until the finale where that out of control family member is killed. The clock gets re-set in the next season. Also, who was Archie?
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09-17-2013, 07:07 PM
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#1854
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by kunkstyle
No. Season 5 is split. You can get the season pass on itunes for the second half of Season 5 if you want to watch them (close) to when they air.
If you use HMA or something similar, UK netflix had the first half of season 5 up way before the other versions did. But I would assume it'll still be a number of months after it airs.
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If you switch HMA or unblockus and switch it to the UK version, they release the episodes the NEXT day.
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09-17-2013, 07:40 PM
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#1855
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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So does anybody know if the finale is just going to be an hour long, or is it going to extended for this special occasion? Doesn't seem like two more episodes is enough time to wrap it up.
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09-17-2013, 08:21 PM
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#1856
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Ark2
I loved the Soprano's but they really just repeated the same plot line over and over again ever season. Someone in Tony's mob family is out of control and he has to deal with it. Tension escalates until the finale where that out of control family member is killed. The clock gets re-set in the next season. Also, who was Archie?
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Artillo? Not sure how his name was spelled, the restaurant owner.
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09-17-2013, 08:38 PM
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#1857
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ark2
I loved the Soprano's but they really just repeated the same plot line over and over again ever season. Someone in Tony's mob family is out of control and he has to deal with it. Tension escalates until the finale where that out of control family member is killed. The clock gets re-set in the next season. Also, who was Archie?
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Sopranos was so much more than just the mob stuff though. It was a show where Tony had to manage both families and his scenes with Melfi were so strong. Carmela vs Tony in the Season 4 finale was some of the strongest stuff the show ever did. That was just two amazing actors at their peak giving viewers everything they had.
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09-17-2013, 08:57 PM
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#1858
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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As much as I like Breaking Bad, I can't help but feel that they are forcing a lot this season in order to advance the plot. It's a trap that a lot of shows run into when they start to draw to a close and I was hoping Breaking Bad would be more fluid to end the series.
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09-17-2013, 09:19 PM
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#1859
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Behind Nikkor Glass
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09-17-2013, 09:51 PM
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#1860
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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^ummm thats kinda sad.
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