Breaking Bad

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

Did Walt Jr. seriously call 911 that Walt attacked Skylar when she was the one who attacked her first?

I guess when you just found out your Dad is a meth kingpin who killed your uncle and is in an altercation with your Mom you pick a side pretty quick.

I agree tho. But it created the best scene yet in this show, Walt losing his family. The zoom out of his wife with his blood on her and his son looking scared and defending his mom was pretty much years in the making. Amazing stuff.

Highlights for me:
-Walts "I tried to save him". Chilling. You could see the utter anguish in his face.
-Walts look of realization he's lost his family forever when he said "but were family". He knew that when he walked out that door it would never be the same.
-Hanks death. I didn't think they could top Mike's death but... well there you go.

2 shows to go. I think I'll feel genuinely sad when this shows over.

[ernie]

Wow. All I can say is wow. tremendous episode.

I don't really think it's Walt realizing it is all his fault so much as he is realizing that beyond Jesse for the first few season he has never truly had control of anyone or the situation..and that includes his family. To me it was that realization that he didn't have control over anyone including his family and it came crashing down on him.

It's not a love of family. That went out the window long ago IMO. He's made good moves but in the end he's never really been in control of the big picture situation since the first cook.

I know some don't like the sudden appearance of the new gang but to me it is just a further illustration of this. He made the move to kill off Gus but he simply isn't able to be the guy in true control. A vacuum was created and being unable to fill it, or not being criminally smart enough to fill that vacuum properly before trying to exit, someone else swooped in.

Now, perhaps this realization causes a change in him that he tries to make amends, however, i believe what will happen is that he will confess everything and take the ricin (as others have said). This won't be to truly atone or turn over a new leaf or for the love of family though he may wear that mask but rather because his final act puts him back in control. Walt is a narcissist.

Anyways fantastic series coming to what looks like a fantastic end.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

Did Walt Jr. seriously call 911 that Walt attacked Skylar when she was the one who attacked her first?

Jr. just found out his father is running a drug empire and has had a hand in his uncle's death (along with whatever else Marie and Skylar may have told him).

I have to admit I was a little surprised that Jr. flipped so quickly, but it makes sense that he would call the cops on Walt before he would Skylar.

[Bertuzzied]

George RR Martin comments on Breaking Bad...... Wow! Walter White more evil then inbred Joffrey??

“Amazing series. Amazing episode last night. Talk about a gut punch,” he said.
Breaking Bad appears to have inspired him to create a character as evil as Walt. “Walter White is a bigger monster than anyone in Westeros. (I need to do something about that),” he wrote.

http://www.hypable.com/2013/09/16/ga...-bad-reaction/

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

George RR Martin comments on Breaking Bad...... Wow! Walter White more evil then inbred Joffrey??

“Amazing series. Amazing episode last night. Talk about a gut punch,” he said.
Breaking Bad appears to have inspired him to create a character as evil as Walt. “Walter White is a bigger monster than anyone in Westeros. (I need to do something about that),” he wrote.

http://www.hypable.com/2013/09/16/ga...-bad-reaction/

I have to disagree with Martin on this one. Joffrey, Roose Bolton, and Ramsay Snow are all considerably more evil than Walt. At least Walt has some redeemable qualities. Not like these guys...

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Jr. just found out his father is running a drug empire and has had a hand in his uncle's death (along with whatever else Marie and Skylar may have told him).

I have to admit I was a little surprised that Jr. flipped so quickly, but it makes sense that he would call the cops on Walt before he would Skylar.

Did she really even attack first? My memory is she pulled out the knife, and told him to leave, and then lashed out at him when he came towards her.

[fredr123]

I meant to go back an listen to the scene again, but maybe someone here can clarify.

At home during the confrontation, Flynn says "Aunt Marie said you a drug dealer."

I thought I heard Walt reply something along the lines of "No! Well, kind of..." or something to that effect and then kept going with the confrontation.

Was I hearing things?

[MrMastodonFarm]

If we want to make comparisons between shows, that's cool but we should really leave out any potential Game of Thrones spoilers. Especially saying who is and who isn't an evil character... especially when one seems good.. and then isn't... if you know what I mean.. .come on guys.

[Tinordi]

I love how Walt's diatibe on Skylar was basically the summation of all the fan hate towards her too. Clearly by design.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I have to disagree with Martin on this one. Joffrey, Roose Bolton, and Ramsay Snow are all considerably more evil than Walt. At least Walt has some redeemable qualities. Not like these guys...

(TV stuff only)
While these characters are far more sadistic than Walt, none of them have gone through the "slow-burn" character development that Walt has. Jaime is the closest in terms of the "slow-burn", but he went from bad guy to good.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by MissAvery16

They should of killed Walt Jr too.

Should *have*

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Matata

(TV stuff only)
While these characters are far more sadistic than Walt, none of them have gone through the "slow-burn" character development that Walt has. Jaime is the closest in terms of the "slow-burn", but he went from bad guy to good.

I think it's fair to comment on the book as Martin said that there is no one in the Westeros universe that is as monstrous as Walt, so he was clearly talking about both the books and the show.

[King Hippo]

I'm probably in the minority again, but I'm rooting for the White Supremacists.

Not for what they stand as skinheads, but you have to marvel at the fact that they started out as just a group of thugs when they moved up the ladder with taking out Decland and taking over their Meth operations with Lydia. Then they took out two of the DEA's top cops. Now they have 70 million in cash!

Not only that but just the pure ownage of Jesse, who's been calling everyone a b*tch for years, is now realizing he's been made someone's b*tch.

Hope these guys reign supreme!
PS...still hoping Todd manages to bone Lydia somewhere in the last 2 episodes

[Acey]

Originally Posted by red sky

Can she win an emmy?

A 10 year old was nominated for best actress at the Oscars this year, losing to Jennifer Lawrence. I think at some point, it'll be possible.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by King Hippo

I'm probably in the minority again, but I'm rooting for the White Supremacists.

Not for what they stand as skinheads, but you have to marvel at the fact that they started out as just a group of thugs when they moved up the ladder with taking out Decland and taking over their Meth operations with Lydia. Then they took out two of the DEA's top cops. Now they have 70 million in cash!

Not only that but just the pure ownage of Jesse, who's been calling everyone a b*tch for years, is now realizing he's been made someone's b*tch.

Hope these guys reign supreme!
PS...still hoping Todd manages to bone Lydia somewhere in the last 2 episodes

Yup. You're definitely in the minority.

These guys, with the exception of Todd, are really just a bunch of opportunist thugs. After all the story telling, character development, plotting, mental chess, etc.. that's gone down in this show, it would be a kick in the nuts to see a bunch of guys who have recently been introduced to the show and who are barely literate come out on top.

They make a good final adversary, as whatever showdown occurs will have to involve brute force/action or intelligent plotting to avoid violence. However, having the white supremacists come out on top would be the worst ending to a TV show since ALF.

[Tinordi]

How is Todd an exception?

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Awesome article on Forbes about why Breaking Bad is the best show ever and why it matters. Great read.

CONTAINS SPoilers for Breaking Bad, Sopranos and The Wire.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenstj...hat-matters/2/

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Acey

A 10 year old was nominated for best actress at the Oscars this year, losing to Jennifer Lawrence. I think at some point, it'll be possible.

not really the point of your post I know but....

Tatum O'Neal was 10 when she won for best supporting actress.

Anna Paquin was 11 when she won the same award.

There have been several other pre-teens nominated, but youngest so far is Justin Henry (8 years old, best actor nominee Kramer vs Kramer).

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

How is Todd an exception?

Todd is a ###### and I hope Jesse kills him.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by King Hippo

I'm probably in the minority again, but I'm rooting for the White Supremacists.

My new tagline!