08-06-2024, 03:26 PM
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#18081
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Trump allies, as well as Project 2025, have also said exactly the opposite, including trying to use the Comstock Act, a 150 year old piece of archaic legislation, to enforce a nationwide abortion ban. And what do you suppose the Supreme Court will do if that action is challenged?
Shapiro now on stage... hope he talks longer than Fetterman, who was... not good.
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08-06-2024, 03:27 PM
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#18082
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Originally Posted by FireItUp
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Roe v Wade was pretty ####ing logical for decades until that piece of #### came along. He was saying that babies were killed after birth. You’re ######ed if you support him.
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08-06-2024, 03:28 PM
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#18083
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boxed-in
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The idiocy of the "states' rights" argument on a topic that's 100% an individual health and autonomy decision... it would be comical if not so depressing. Tyrrany of the majority is perfectly fine as long as it's a majority of people in a certain state. Otherwise it would be federal overreach!!
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08-06-2024, 03:34 PM
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#18084
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/o...-abortion.html
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The 920-page blueprint for a second Trump administration created by Project 2025, a coalition of conservative organizations, calls for enforcing Comstock’s criminal prohibitions against using the mail — widely understood to include common carriers like UPS and FedEx — to provide or distribute abortion pills. Some MAGA legal minds believe that Comstock could also be wielded to prevent the mail from transporting tools used in surgical abortions. “We don’t need a federal ban when we have Comstock on the books,” Jonathan F. Mitchell, a crusading anti-abortion lawyer who represented Trump before the Supreme Court this year, [explained] in February.
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08-06-2024, 03:37 PM
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#18085
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Edmonton
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Originally Posted by FireItUp
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Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to the vast difference between what Trump, and Republicans in general, say during elections and then how they govern, legislate and judicate afterwards. "Roe vs Wade is the law of the land" was directly mentioned in Supreme Court nomination hearings and then re-opened and reversed with lightning speed once enough conservative jurists were in place. TL  R. Conservatives run from the middle and govern from the far right. Also, they lie.
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08-06-2024, 03:38 PM
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#18086
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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they are acing this with Shapiro opening their rally. Really good speaker too.
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08-06-2024, 03:39 PM
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#18087
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by devo22
they are acing this with Shapiro opening their rally. Really good speaker too.
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First time I've heard him speak. Excellent, excellent speaker. I hear the Obama comparisons for sure.
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08-06-2024, 03:40 PM
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#18088
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Shapiro's not even done yet and I have two thoughts.
1. He's knocking this #### out of the park.
2. This dude could be President next time.
The only issue is that this is a hell of an act for Walz to follow.
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08-06-2024, 03:44 PM
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#18089
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Originally Posted by FireItUp
Trumps actual stance on abortion.
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Yeah, I'm super duper sure that Trump is saying the truth here and not just spewing whatever he needs to say in the months leading up to the election. 
Project 2025 was written by at least 140 people who worked in Trump's administration, and it calls for all kinds of attacks on women's reproductive rights. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-2025-abortion
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08-06-2024, 03:45 PM
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#18090
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Shapiro's not even done yet and I have two thoughts.
1. He's knocking this #### out of the park.
2. This dude could be President next time.
The only issue is that this is a hell of an act for Walz to follow.
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I don't know. He's a great speaker but he comes across to me as an Obama ripoff. I think Kamala made the correct choice.
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08-06-2024, 03:46 PM
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#18091
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Lifetime Suspension
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08-06-2024, 03:54 PM
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#18092
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by FireItUp
Trumps view on abortion is fair. He's against a national ban on abortion and wants the citizens in each state to vote on it.
Peoples opinion on abortion differ in various states and this seems like the only logical solution.
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How is it fair for some random dude down the street to decide if I can have an abortion or not? He knows nothing about me or the circumstances.
Can I decide what medical procedures he's allowed to have?
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08-06-2024, 03:54 PM
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#18093
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What is the holdup? I guess this doesn't really matter but seriously, there should have been no gap, just bring out the main event. Yeesh.
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08-06-2024, 04:01 PM
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#18094
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Lifetime Suspension
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That was like a WWE show with the crowd chanting "hes a weirdo" all we needed was some whats.
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08-06-2024, 04:05 PM
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#18095
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Powerplay Quarterback
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She's leaning into her spiel again. :/ It's great, it's funny, it's true but....it's getting a bit long in the tooth.
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08-06-2024, 04:09 PM
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#18096
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cube Inmate
The idiocy of the "states' rights" argument on a topic that's 100% an individual health and autonomy decision... it would be comical if not so depressing. Tyrrany of the majority is perfectly fine as long as it's a majority of people in a certain state. Otherwise it would be federal overreach!!
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States rights was often an argument to justify Jim Crow laws, especially separation of kids in schools. Federal overreach was required then to correct a massive injustice. It will be done again either through congress or the supreme court once new rules are placed on them. My money is on getting it codified in congress.
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08-06-2024, 04:18 PM
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#18097
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She's doing a fine job introducing him but I kinda feel like he needs the opportunity to introduce himself, it's going to be a bit of a downer if he doesn't get much time to speak here.
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08-06-2024, 04:22 PM
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#18098
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
I don't know. He's a great speaker but he comes across to me as an Obama ripoff. I think Kamala made the correct choice.
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I love Kamala’s choice but Obama ripoff or similar to Obama? They’re not the same thing.
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08-06-2024, 04:24 PM
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#18099
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
States rights was often an argument to justify Jim Crow laws, especially separation of kids in schools. Federal overreach was required then to correct a massive injustice. It will be done again either through congress or the supreme court once new rules are placed on them. My money is on getting it codified in congress.
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Yeah and not to mention that whole Civil War that was fought over states' rights... to own people
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08-06-2024, 04:24 PM
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#18100
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
How is it fair for some random dude down the street to decide if I can have an abortion or not? He knows nothing about me or the circumstances.
Can I decide what medical procedures he's allowed to have?
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Just make vasectomies illegal in States with abortion bans. Same same
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