08-22-2022, 01:58 PM
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#1781
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by speede5
Why do people who don't "believe in god" feel the need to profess and defend their beliefs with others? No one cares that you don't require a religious figure to feel comfort in the meaningless of your own life.
I've never attacked an atheist for their views. But one mention that a person believes in God and it's open season.
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Some of us just have an appreciation for truth, reality and honesty.
I don't quietly accept people indoctrinatng innocents into belief structures based in lies, mistruths, corruption and bull####. I don't accept it online and I don't accept in person to the extent people are willing to engage on the topic (in person I wouldn't attack a religious person or their religion if they didn't want to talk about it other than to say I'm areligious).
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08-22-2022, 02:24 PM
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#1783
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion  |
“The only difference between a religion and a cult is funding.”
Can’t remember where I heard that. Might have been a movie, or a documentary?
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08-22-2022, 02:28 PM
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#1784
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I was in Nashville recently doing some bar hopping on Broadway. Tons of fun.
There was a group of those extremist Christians (you know the ones that list gays, adulterers, video gamers, sissy men, Catholics etc as going to hell on their signs) on one of the street corners. One guy had a mega phone and another guy was just yelling.
One of their big signs was blocking the crossing signal, so I was actually unsure when I could cross. When I eventually did, I went up to one of the guys and said hey your sign is blocking the crossing signal you should move it. Now this is Nashville (hot as balls out) and the guy was yelling and sweating like a ####ing pig. He ####ing touches my arm with his sweaty hand and proceeds to yell some Jesus #### in my face and I felt his spit on me. It took every ounce of will power not to ####ing hit him. Wow was I mad.
I'd bet my house these people would support the Freedumb Convoy in Canada.
Maybe *YOU* haven't shoved your beliefs down people's throats, but MANY people do and I ####ing hate it.
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Yup I get that and I would feel the same as you in that situation. Those types don't seem to know a thing about what Christ taught and how he would have wanted us to treat people. Honestly I've never been embarrassed to be a Christian until the last few years watching all these idiots be the absolute worst examples.
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08-22-2022, 02:29 PM
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#1785
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Brendone
“The only difference between a religion and a cult is funding.”
Can’t remember where I heard that. Might have been a movie, or a documentary?
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That and you can leave religion whenever you’d like.
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08-22-2022, 02:31 PM
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#1786
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by speede5
Yup I get that and I would feel the same as you in that situation. Those types don't seem to know a thing about what Christ taught and how he would have wanted us to treat people. Honestly I've never been embarrassed to be a Christian until the last few years watching all these idiots be the absolute worst examples.
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And precisely, in my opinion, why one should not affiliate with a religion but rather a faith. At least it separates one from toxic group-think and feeling ashamed of others’ decisions to a foundation of personal conviction/belief. You cannot change other peoples behaviours, so why feel ashamed? Because you identify yourself as one within the same group while having vastly different perspectives on the matter. It’s toxic, self-demeaning, and unhelpful for those who have faith. You’d cause yourself a lot less grief if one begins to think this way. Saying this as someone who doesn’t have faith.
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08-22-2022, 02:35 PM
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#1787
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Do they? 60 per cent of Canadians believe in God. But I rarely (as in maybe once or twice a year) hear anyone talk about God, church, or their religious beliefs. Seems the overwhelming majority of Canadians avoid talking about religion in public.
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Personal anecdotes? Well, I have a religious family, so between the two of us, the hundred or more times that religious views are thrust into my face by them and their friends or associates over the course of year even out to around 51 or 2 instances. You're welcome!
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08-22-2022, 02:40 PM
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#1788
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Also, i love the complete anti-logic that's required for Moneyguy's point.
It is true, physically speaking, that conditions in the universe have to be precise for it all to exist. A small example (pun intended) is that he strong force is tuned just precisely so to keep your atoms together but not make chemistry impossible. Or, alternately considered, strong enough that your atoms stay together without protons, neutrons and electrons whizzing around haphazardly in normal pressure/temperature.
But, that doesn't at all require a creator to tune. Unfortunately there is no way from our point of reference for us to determine it's not just all random interference of wave patterns, where our universe worked and another instance didn't. It only requires Infinity.
if you can marry your idea of god with the concept of infinity, then sure. But it is entirely certain that infinite probability doesn't give any sort of #### what you do in your existence. Or i guess kind of relies entirely on you acting any sort of way at all. Theres a mind#### in there if you think hard enough.
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08-22-2022, 02:49 PM
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#1789
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by speede5
Yup I get that and I would feel the same as you in that situation. Those types don't seem to know a thing about what Christ taught and how he would have wanted us to treat people. Honestly I've never been embarrassed to be a Christian until the last few years watching all these idiots be the absolute worst examples.
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"The fact that Man desires, fortune, fame and power and has used religion to obtain these is more an indictment of these people, rather than religion itself."
I see a lot of people responding to this aspect. It is the reason I led with this in my initial post.
There is an adage of "If you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything", and having a faith based belief system is what many people adhere to so as to find meaning in their lives.
Are some easily taken down the wrong rabbit holes and are there people that will lead them there for their own benefit? Absolutely and that is not what I believe in.
I am not here trying to change anyone's belief system. I just wanted to start a different conversation than the one that was rampant on this thread and it looks as though that is happening.
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08-22-2022, 03:08 PM
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#1790
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Brendone
“The only difference between a religion and a cult is funding.”
Can’t remember where I heard that. Might have been a movie, or a documentary?
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In Junior High we studied a novel that involved a cult. Part of the study of said novel was taking a list of "signs you might be dealing with a cult" and analysing the cult in the novel with that list.
The list had a disclaimer that it would produce "false positives" for "legitimate" religions. Oh, really?
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08-22-2022, 04:03 PM
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#1791
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brendone
“The only difference between a religion and a cult is funding.”
Can’t remember where I heard that. Might have been a movie, or a documentary?
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I believe the punch line is "tax status".
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08-22-2022, 07:56 PM
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#1792
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Powerplay Quarterback
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This thread seems the perfect venue for arguing about religion. Nobody’s right yes everybody’s wrong.
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08-23-2022, 01:14 PM
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#1794
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Originally Posted by calculoso
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I cant believe there are people who believe this bull.
Its really hard to wrap your head around. If I met that person randomly in real life I'd just think they were mentally unhinged and go about my business.
What has to happen for anyone to believe this crap? Much less sacrifice anything to help her?
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08-23-2022, 01:38 PM
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#1795
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I cant believe there are people who believe this bull.
Its really hard to wrap your head around. If I met that person randomly in real life I'd just think they were mentally unhinged and go about my business.
What has to happen for anyone to believe this crap? Much less sacrifice anything to help her?
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Shouldn't this comment be in the alberta politics thread ?
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08-23-2022, 01:46 PM
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#1796
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Franchise Player
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Hundreds (was it thousands?) of people gathered in Texas to await the return of JFK.
Yes, the dead JFK.
People, generally speaking, are ####ing dumb.
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08-23-2022, 05:40 PM
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#1797
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I cant believe there are people who believe this bull.
Its really hard to wrap your head around. If I met that person randomly in real life I'd just think they were mentally unhinged and go about my business.
What has to happen for anyone to believe this crap? Much less sacrifice anything to help her?
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She is mentally unhinged/unstable. Her followers are buffoons.
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08-25-2022, 10:17 AM
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#1798
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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08-25-2022, 10:23 AM
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#1799
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In your enterprise AI
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When you thought the Burger King couldn't get any creepier
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08-25-2022, 11:59 AM
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#1800
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Basement Chicken Choker
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In a land without pants, or war, or want. But mostly we care about the pants.
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Wait, a shiny party hat and pimp stick is all I need to seize power?
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