02-16-2008, 02:04 AM
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#161
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Put me firmly in the McNabb is underrated camp
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02-16-2008, 05:08 AM
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#162
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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And I am firmly in the camp that McNabb is damaged goods from here on in.
Too many serious injuries on an older body tends to = past his prime and likely a liability moving forward.
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02-18-2008, 11:09 AM
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#163
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
And I am firmly in the camp that McNabb is damaged goods from here on in.
Too many serious injuries on an older body tends to = past his prime and likely a liability moving forward.
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You could be right. I think this season will cement his legacy in Philly one way or another.
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02-18-2008, 05:32 PM
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#164
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#1 Goaltender
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I think McNabb has recently migrated from slightly underrated, or at least under appreciated in Philly, to the broken down goods camp. Not many miles left on that one.
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02-18-2008, 05:57 PM
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#165
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames in 07
I think McNabb has recently migrated from slightly underrated, or at least under appreciated in Philly, to the broken down goods camp. Not many miles left on that one.
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People were saying that about Brett Favre too. I'm not saying your wrong but McNabb looked really good towards the end of the season and the Eagles should have a pretty favorabl schedule that will help pad his stats next year.
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02-18-2008, 07:06 PM
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#166
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#1 Goaltender
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Well one difference between them is that Brett Favre plays 16 games a year. McNabb, far more often than not has to shut it down in November. with Mcnabb, it's a given that you need a very capable backup because you'll need him to not only get into the playoffs but also run through the playoffs.
And not that Favre is terribly clutch, but you don't think of McNabb as the guy who can pull you through adversity.
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02-19-2008, 10:41 AM
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#167
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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The wildcard with McNabb is his knee injury. I think I said in another thread, it seems to take another year before players with reconstructed knees seem to get back into form. That would mean this upcoming season is the true test.
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02-19-2008, 01:53 PM
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#168
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Retired
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pacific Ocean
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Originally Posted by KTown
I can't believe he's gone when I buy Dolphins jerseys I buy the ones I think the players will retire as fins.
First ever jersey was a Marino, I wore that jersey till it completely faded away. About 5 years ago I bought a Zach Thomas Jersey, now who's jersey am I going to get.
ZT was the best dolphin the last 5 years, he always gave it his all. It will be tough to see him playing anywhere else. But at least somebody is officially rebuilding the Fins.
Sad day in fin land, but a sign of new beginnings.
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Looks like worse case sceanario for Fins fans could happen. Pats offer Thomas contract
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...Dolphin-Thomas
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02-19-2008, 02:21 PM
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#169
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by socalwingfan
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He's still going to meet with the Saints and Cowboys this week. I'm holding out hope that he signs in New Orleans, as even an oft-injured Thomas in the twighlight of his career is an upgrade over Simoneau. I think he'd be a better fight in New Orleans than he would in NE or Dallas due to the fact the Saints play a 4-3 compared to a 3-4 in NE & Dal. But he's a Texas boy, and it sounds like he'd love to finish out his career back in his home state. And of course there's always the strong urge for these ringless, close to retiring superstars to take one last shot at a title, hence why he may end up with the Pats. Here's hopin he comes to the Big Easy...
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02-19-2008, 02:45 PM
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#170
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Portland, OR
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Derek Smith of the 49ers was released today. Another aging LB for the Saints to bring in to maintain the Snow Patrol.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3253440
A guy like Patrick Willis will make you expendable.
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02-19-2008, 04:52 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Just heard on Sportscenter that Zach Thomas' top two choices are between New Orleans and New England. I have a feeling he's gonna go to the Pats, but we'll see...
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02-20-2008, 01:05 PM
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#172
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Great news in Indy. Colts place franchise tag on Clark which means he's pretty much retained for another year at $4.5 M. Colts also re-sign Ryan Lilja.
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;...v=ap&type=lgns
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02-20-2008, 11:31 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: N/A
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Originally Posted by socalwingfan
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I think Zachs agent who is drew the biggest sly agent in the world is just going to use the pats contract offer with Dallas as leverage to get him more.
I have a feeling Zach would like to play for Dallas. Zach is a texas boy and my gut feeling is if he can't play on a winner in Miami, Dallas would be his first choice.
It would hurt for me to see him in NE.
With all the being said ESPN is reporting its between NE and the Saints. So who really knows.
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02-21-2008, 08:36 AM
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#174
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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02-21-2008, 08:35 PM
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#175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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The Saints have offered Zach Thomas a contract today, and according to Adam Schefter on NFL Total Access tonight, he says the Saints are the front-runners to grab him. God I hope so...
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02-22-2008, 08:16 AM
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#176
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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DeShaun Foster was released by the Panthers.
Jamal Lewis signed a 3 year contract with the Browns
Dallas Clark signed a 6 year deal with the Colts, ad gave starting guard Lilja a 5 year ontract.
And Haynesworth had the Franchise tag slapped on him.
Anyone know how the Franchise tag works with Clark? Now that he signed a long term contract, can the Colts withdraw it and get it back, or is it gone as soon as it was applied?
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"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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02-22-2008, 11:28 AM
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#177
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Anyone know how the Franchise tag works with Clark? Now that he signed a long term contract, can the Colts withdraw it and get it back, or is it gone as soon as it was applied?
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It's gone.
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02-23-2008, 12:00 PM
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#179
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames in 07
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Not surprising that he wants to finish out his career in his home state with a Super Bowl contender, good move for the Cowboys. Too bad for my Saints, but you can't blame him for making that move, I think anybody would. Kind of a perfect scenario for wrapping up your career.
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02-23-2008, 12:15 PM
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#180
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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I really hope Indy re-signs UFA's Jake Scott and Josh Thomas. They are a big part of our team and I hope they get a deal done. On the RFA front Ben Utecht needs to be re-signed. Those 3 are the big pieces left to re-sign.
Also, NE apparently declined the option on Dante Stallworth making him a free agent.
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