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Old 11-30-2023, 04:43 PM   #161
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Doing it today really makes no sense too...do this on Sunday...after you play them.

But yeah I really don't get helping out a divisional rival, 2 days before you play them, for a return that can be deemed acceptable at best, and extremely underwhelming at it's worst.
Conroy is giving the team a chance to take out their frustration on Zadorov because we have lots of guys with the ability to just crush him.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:45 PM   #162
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There was no universe where they were getting more than this without taking back cap. Don't know what everyone is complaining about.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:45 PM   #163
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Cap space has great value, fine return for someone playing bad enough to be sat yet wants a big contract
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:45 PM   #164
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For the record, this is around what I suggest the Canucks would be willing to pay. I am shocked no one else overpaid.

Canucks may have put a clock on it.
Then you wait. Vancouver with their injuries should be more desperate to acquire Zadorov than the Flames to move him. The return was not good enough to be squeezed into making a move now, they didn't give another team a chance to overpay by doing this now.

Honestly the only reason the Flames should be making this trade now is if they feel there is some need for them to open up that cap space now. Because there's really no other justification.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:46 PM   #165
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Everyone will love it when Zadorov gives the puck away in the Flames game.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:47 PM   #166
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Really consistent owner we’ve got
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:48 PM   #167
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Big time. Public trade request plus playing like crap since that Eastern Canada road trip ended tanked his value for sure
It actually started during that Eastern Canada road trip. Remember the giveaway in the Ottawa game?
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:48 PM   #168
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Cap space has to be considered.

Flames took none back.

Has to be revisited when we see what the Flames do with that space.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:49 PM   #169
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Let's use last couple trade deadline as a comparison:

Kulikov for McGinn, 3rd
Luke Schenn for 3rd
Kulak for 2nd, 7th, Lagesson
Justin Braun for 3rd
Travis Dermott for 3rd
Hamonic for 3rd

Personally feel like Zadorov should have returned at least a 2nd, he's better than the guys that returned a 3rd here.

No idea why you're making this trade now and not just waiting...unless you have another deal where you're taking on cap for some reason.
Or ... he's been a bit of a problem in the locker room and you'd rather address it with something that is close. And before someone attacks me - I'm not saying he's a problem. Just saying that this return suggests that waiting until the trade deadline was not an option for this team.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:49 PM   #170
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Everyone will love it when Zadorov gives the puck away in the Flames game.
So that the Flames can skate it along the boards and miss the net by 6'.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:51 PM   #171
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Fair enough. I guess my expectations were a bit out of whack.

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Underwhelming return. Think posters are giving conroy a pass for this because it’s conroy. Also getting sick of ownership not wanting to retain salary.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:51 PM   #173
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To be fair, the team can only retain on 3 contracts. Now they can still retain on Lindholm, Hanifin, and/or Tanev. All 3 will net more of a return.

Also, Calgary gets the full 3.75 in cap.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:52 PM   #174
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Underwhelming return but I also didn't think Zadorov would get as much as some others thought.

Not underwhelming enough to get upset over it and I am happy to see us move someone on that clearly needed to be moved. So overall ok move in my books.

Hopefully it is the start of many more of the bigger trades that need to be made getting done.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:52 PM   #175
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Really consistent owner we’ve got
I actually think that Conroy didn't want to retain on Z, likely not an ownership decision, because he might want to retain on more important deals coming up. IMO it would have been a mistake to retain on Z.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:52 PM   #176
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Gio is out now out in Toronto as well, their defense is Riley, Brodie, Lagesson, Mccabe, Benoit and Timmins. BT would have been even more desperate. Yikes what a bad return and to Vancouver no less
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:52 PM   #177
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Very underwhelming return. Would have done much better, later in the season.

Only thing I can figure is they wanted him out. But still, tell everyone to play nice, and remain patient.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:53 PM   #178
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Kind of undwerwhelming, but whatever. He didn’t want to be here and that’s a locker room distraction so see ya later.
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:54 PM   #179
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underwhelming return. Zadorov isn't the best but would have been nice to get a mid-prospect instead of a late 5th rounder. Hopefully, the extra cap space gained was needed for something bigger coming...
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Old 11-30-2023, 04:54 PM   #180
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There better be a need for the cap space. Because this trade makes us worse.
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