Enough is enough - Bring up Wolf.

[InternationalVillager]

So i guess it's safe to assume that Wolf isnt being called up for the road trip as it starts tomorrow with a back to back? if he was to start, id think against Arizona would be best.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Jacob should take parental leave for a couple weeks.

The husband is alllowed 12 months now!

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Alternately, it could play out well and catapult his confidence in Oettinger like ways, sustaining him as one of the best up and coming goalie prospects in the league.

There's a lot of bellyaching about his confidence in totally made up scenarios. If we bring him up and he plays poorly he probably goes back down. It doesn't have to be a one way ticket, and it doesn't have to have long term impacts on his confidence. Saying it will destroy him mentally is just as strange as claiming it's the only way to ensure he's a success.

If bringing him up to play some hockey games destroys him you might as well get rid of him now. He’s a professional hockey player.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

So i guess it's safe to assume that Wolf isnt being called up for the road trip as it starts tomorrow with a back to back? if he was to start, id think against Arizona would be best.

Nope.

Flames are it appears just content to ride with the sieves, for better or worse

Starting him vs ARI would've been nice. I assume they go to vladar since it was proven to them for the umpteenth time that markstrom cannot hold the fort down

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Frequitude

Bringing Wolf up is a terrible idea.

Throwing him into the hornets nest that is our disappointing season, largely thanks to poor goaltending, and hoping he's our savior is how you destroy a prospect.

Leave him to develop, continue excelling, and hopefully get the experience leading his team to a long playoff run.

When is a good time to call up your star prospect when it won't "ruin him"

You can never shelter a goalie from that risk, ever

He has to play 60 minutes in net and be the guy no matter what in order to graduate. At least it provides a valuable learning experience and can show him how close/far he is. Right now neither he nor us has any idea.

At least this group suppresses shot volume pretty damn well

This is a terribly not well thought out take and I hate every time someone throws it out there and thanks it

The only argument is his age. But as far as readiness, there may be no more ready-looking goalie in the AHL

Is there ever a perfect time to give a player a look? No but these games are a way better measuring stick for him than meaningless ones when they are just playing out the string

I think it serves every party involved, and you're out to lunch here

It's this line of thinking that keeps the Flames mediocre and spinning its wheels every other year

You have to start taking risks. And wolf has literally maxed out at every level he has played. Like it's impossible to do better than he has done as a prospect as far as accolades

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Markstrom's wife is due this weekend. I think we see Wolf on the road trip.

Even if he's up for a game.. if its just for a parental leave, I'd put the odds that Sutter plays him at 0%. If they agree to bring him up for a spell - then he'll play. But if its just to cover a game while Markstrom is away - Sutter won't play him.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

If vladar sucks tomorrow and wolf is up for replacement reasons, I could see the coach giving him a shot

You have to believe Sutter wants to feel out all his ooptions and is as exasperated with the subpar goaltending as we are

It's also his chance to send a message to the two vets, which I'm sure he's been wanting to do

[iamca]

I have tickets to the Wrangler’s game versus the Avs affiliate, the Colorado Eagles, in the second row on Friday, March 3rd.

I didn’t promise my son that we would be watching the best goaltending prospect in Calgary’s system, but I am thinking there’s no way that Wolf won’t be starting this game.

The Flames organization has not made the best decisions in the past few months and I’m thinking that this trend will continue.


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[edslunch]

Markstrom has not been good and now he’s going to be a sleep-deprived father?? This does not bode well.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by edslunch

Markstrom has not been good and now he’s going to be a sleep-deprived father?? This does not bode well.

It is curious

I'm hoping that it's a case where there were pregnancy concerns (as with in many cases) perhaps, and when the baby arrives healthy, it clears up the dark cloud that's been hovering over him for months

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Are there any?

I have no idea, but none come to mind. I’m just curious where the “if you call him up too soon you might ruin him!” stuff comes from, as I don’t recall that ever being a worry for a goaltender at his level and development stage.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I have no idea, but none come to mind. I’m just curious where the “if you call him up too soon you might ruin him!” stuff comes from, as I don’t recall that ever being a worry for a goaltender at his level and development stage.

Has there ever been an example comparable to Wolf's to begin with?

Logan Thompson is probably the closest comparable, and while it's been impressive it's still early.

Jake Allen is also recent, and he levelled off pretty hard.

Matt Murray might be the best total case study and that's not entirely encouraging.

Definitely not a "worry" from the outset, but not exactly a demonstrable example either.

[PepsiFree]

Even if Matt Murray were going to be a negative example, there was a lot of lights-out hockey (back to back cups to show for it) before concussions screwed him up.

I guess my point is… if there is no example of a goaltender even close to Wolf coming in at this stage and getting ruined… what’s the foundation for the concern?

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

When is a good time to call up your star prospect when it won't "ruin him"

Preferably not when the fans and media expect him to be the savior of the season. If Markstrom or Vladar get hurt then yeah, you do what you have to do.

He won't necessarily get ruined if things go bad but you want to put your rookies into a position to succeed.

The whole thing about the Flames just needing goaltending and they'll be good seems to just be a thing with Flames fans. Whenever I see non-Flames media talk about the Flames they do call out the goaltending but they also say the team takes too many low quality shots, doesn't capitalize enough on good chances, and when they do give up a high danger chance it's really bad.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Inferno

The whole thing about the Flames just needing goaltending and they'll be good seems to just be a thing with Flames fans. Whenever I see non-Flames media talk about the Flames they do call out the goaltending but they also say the team takes too many low quality shots, doesn't capitalize enough on good chances, and when they do give up a high danger chance it's really bad.

Bingo. Markstrom needs to be better but this team has multiple issues. They all need to be better/sorted out to make a playoff push. Also, besides the bolded above....the PP. It's been really bad this season.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Preferably not when the fans and media expect him to be the savior of the season. If Markstrom or Vladar get hurt then yeah, you do what you have to do.

He won't necessarily get ruined if things go bad but you want to put your rookies into a position to succeed.

The whole thing about the Flames just needing goaltending and they'll be good seems to just be a thing with Flames fans. Whenever I see non-Flames media talk about the Flames they do call out the goaltending but they also say the team takes too many low quality shots, doesn't capitalize enough on good chances, and when they do give up a high danger chance it's really bad.

Except the media and fans don’t expect him to be the saviour. Our season is swirling the drain and Sutter/Tre have tried exactly nothing to correct the issues. Trying Wolf could provide a spark.

He’s not the saviour, he’s a Hail Mary. If it misses, oh well we tried. If it connects, everybody wins.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Markstrom's wife is due this weekend. I think we see Wolf on the road trip.

If that happens I'll change my avatar to McDavid.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Except the media and fans don’t expect him to be the saviour. Our season is swirling the drain and Sutter/Tre have tried exactly nothing to correct the issues. Trying Wolf could provide a spark.

He’s not the saviour, he’s a Hail Mary. If it misses, oh well we tried. If it connects, everybody wins.

Every fan? No. But yes, there's fans who expect him to be lights out if called up because of how he dominated the WHL and AHL.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Every fan? No. But yes, there's fans who expect him to be lights out if called up because of how he dominated the WHL and AHL.

And there’s people who think covid is a government conspiracy, that doesn’t mean we should take them seriously. The fringe minority are just that, a fringe minority.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

So i guess it's safe to assume that Wolf isnt being called up for the road trip as it starts tomorrow with a back to back? if he was to start, id think against Arizona would be best.

Yeah, safe to assume that he isn’t the answer based on logic, reason, & rational thought.

A knee jerk reaction like calling up an AHL goalie & shoving him in the lineup obviously lacking confidence makes as much sense as the idiot sitting behind me yesterday yelling at the players to shoot.

If only it was that easy.

“For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.”

H. L. Mencken