[Trade] Flames acquire rights to Nikita Zadorov for 3rd acquired in Rittich trade

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I am continually baffled by your assessment of defensemen.

Here's my assessment: big, slow, gets outscored.

If the Flames give him a one-year deal and flip him at the TDL — fine. On a long-term contract, this could be a disaster.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Everyone was saying "we got cap-space when Giordano was taken"

...we are now going to spend I'd say probably 65%-70% of Giordano's vacant cap-space on a defenceman who has bad underlying numbers. "He's big"

It was a forgone conclusion that the Flames would waste this cap space.

The fundamentals behind the team's direction right now are just wrong. Unfortunately we can't expect things to change until the Flames change direction.

[Enoch Root]

Hanifin - Andersson (give them more offensive time)
Zadorov - Tanev (give them the heavy minutes
Valimaki - getsomeoffense
Kylington - Stone (at league min)

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Everyone was saying "we got cap-space when Giordano was taken"

...we are now going to spend I'd say probably 65%-70% of Giordano's vacant cap-space on a defenceman who has bad underlying numbers. "He's big"

bad underlying numbers. didn't that jfresh tweet say he is a very good defensive d-man? I know nothing, just wondering.

[GranteedEV]

Blackhawks turned Artemi Panarin into a Leafs 3rd round pick. Will be interesting if they extract any value from it.

[Azure]

Flames don't have this type of player, and its been a while since we did.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I think the playoffs this year showed that you need a big, mean blue line to succeed in the playoffs.

Except Zadorov really hasn't done that consistently. Maybe Sutter can get more out of him.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Excellent defense, ZERO offense.

Think he'll be perfect for Sutter's system.

Between him and Pitlick, the Flames are going for pure defense so far this offseason.

A-ok with a 3rd

We better hope Anderson and Hanifin take big steps forward offensively (points).

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Seattle has made a lot of mistakes but will somehow make the Stanley Cup Finals this year

Now without doing a Groupon ticket buy. Seattle is going to be terrible and unless there is a lottery win in their future, will be for years to come.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Excellent defense, ZERO offense.

Think he'll be perfect for Sutter's system.

Between him and Pitlick, the Flames are going for pure defense so far this offseason.

A-ok with a 3rd

Can you win scoring no goal?

How many one goal loss did they have last year?

[Macman]

So do the Flames have to at least match that qualifying offer? Another team could still technically sign him right?

His last contract for 1 year was $3.2M so I'm guessing he'll get at least that much again but for 2 years.

[Reggie Dunlop]

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I think the playoffs this year showed that you need a big, mean blue line to succeed in the playoffs.

You also need to score goals and I don’t know where that comes from on this team. I don’t think Treliving does, either.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Dang well done but a lot of people to nail what the return would be.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Here's my assessment: big, slow, gets outscored.

If the Flames give him a one-year deal and flip him at the TDL — fine. On a long-term contract, this could be a disaster.

I know +/- is not a perfect stat, but this guy has been a + player for the last 4 seasons, notably on a bad Chicago team last season, but on Colorado he was in the + double digits.

Do you have other stats that show him getting outscored?

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Hanifin - Andersson (give them more offensive time)
Zadorov - Tanev (give them the heavy minutes
Valimaki - getsomeoffense
Kylington - Stone (at league min)

Very unbalanced.

Hanifin - Tanev
Zad - Anderson
Valimaki - Whoever

Hopefully by the end of the year Valimaki takes the #4 spot.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Here's my assessment: big, slow, gets outscored.

If the Flames give him a one-year deal and flip him at the TDL — fine. On a long-term contract, this could be a disaster.

You said pretty much the exact same thing about Tanev.

Softest D in the league.

It's a question of fit, and need. And the role each player is given.

[Nelson]

I'd rather pay a 3rd for Treliving to have an RFA to re-sign because Treliving is awesome at that than pay no assets for Treliving to sign a UFA because Treliving is terrible at that.

[Samonadreau]

Where's the fancy charts??

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

You also need to score goals and I don’t know where that comes from on this team. I don’t think Treliving does, either.

Whew. Good thing you pointed this out just minutes into free agency.