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Old 08-31-2018, 10:01 AM   #161
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I honestly don't care about Nurse at all beyond the fact that I hope he ruins their cap situation even more.
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:07 AM   #162
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:08 AM   #163
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They're really going to pay Nurse more to try to justify he's better aren't they
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I'd mock Matheson on Twitter but was he the guy with the defense force of Edmonton writers at the ready?
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:10 AM   #165
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I am particularly fond of this argument:


Nurse had 26 ES points compared to Hanifin's 25, with no points on the powerplay. Yeah, he is just killing Hanifin at even strength.
Well lets hope Chiapet is of the same mindset as those other mouthbreathers up north, and signs Nurse to a $6M+ per year deal. What a steal of a player!
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:21 AM   #166
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Reading oiler fan boy responses to this deal and how it compares to nurse are so pleasing. On hand, they either admit hanifan equal or better to nurse and that this is the upper bound to a nurse extension. Or they, in oiler fashion, push the narrative that nurse is better which ultimately, prices nurse out if Edmonton's ability to get him in under the cap, hahaha.

Love it
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:21 AM   #167
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It's less than I thought it would be but at the same time I think it's still more than it should be. Would have loved to get the 7th year at that price.

But if Hanifin becomes as good as he thinks he can be, then this will be the 2nd best contract on the team by year 2.
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Or Parsons

But they do already
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:50 AM   #169
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The Edmonton Oilers are like that guy in high school who was the man but peaked and now just pumps gas, reminiscences about the glory days, and hopes winning the lottery will bring back the glory days.

We have one thread where we rip on the worse hockey team and by far the worse city. The constant arrogance that comes out of that dump makes it so easy to keep piling on.
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:54 AM   #170
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...so does he think that Hanifin is more or less valuable than Nurse...?

"Hanifin was 3rd pairing guy in Carolina, Nurse definitely top 4 in Edm"
I think Nurse is better than Hanifin

"Both shoot left."
and so comparable

"Hanifin 32 pts last year, Nurse 26."
but Hanifin is a bit better, so he should get less


No wonder that poor Edmonton fan was confused, I don't even know what Matheson thinks of him.
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:57 AM   #171
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Full audio of Treliving's interview from the Morning Show is now available:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/960/boomer-...rys-offseason/
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The Edmonton Oilers are like that guy in high school who was the man but peaked and now just pumps gas, reminiscences about the glory days, and hopes winning the lottery will bring back the glory days.
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Old 08-31-2018, 11:15 AM   #173
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You don't see a scenario where Smith re-signs at a lower price? At 37 years old? What do you think he'll get paid?
Well if he has a great season and we want him back as the starter, it won't be at $2.5 to $3 million. That would make him the lowest paid starter in the league I would imagine.

If he doesn't play great, I don't see him back here. Can't see him being the backup either.

So yeah, I can see Smith having to accept less money next year but I'm not sure how that would work out with the Flames.
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Old 08-31-2018, 11:16 AM   #174
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Frikkin Tre, He takes a look at the cap and makes it his bitch.

hahaha. So many thanks for a Ben Affleck gif!

I'm already on it guys. I'm going to take Hanifin to Aquaman in December when we trade him to Winnipeg for Blake Wheeler.... haha
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Old 08-31-2018, 11:22 AM   #175
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you want to trade a 21 year old, future top pairing defenseman for a 32 year old?
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Also, no one is going to go see Aquaman.
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The entire Calgary Flame fan mindset is built upon being anti-Oiler. I don't think they could exist without the Oilers or referencing the Oilers every other post. Just look how popular the Edmonton is no good thread is. Every team has its rivals, but I think Flames fans are unique in how they take their obsession with Edmonton to an unparalleled level. Asking a Flames fan not to talk about Edmonton is like asking a vegan not to talk about how eating meat is so bad.
You can take the sweatpants off the Oiler fan but you can't take the sweatpants out of the Oiler fan. The typical Edmonton fan just can't get it through their heads and this post further reinforces it. Nobody goes out of their way to talk about the Oilers except for Oiler fans. E=NG is simply a product of every Oiler fans own demise and self destruction. It's entirely self sufficient at this point.

Also, everyone get's it. You won some cups before the internet, mobile phones and HD television was a thing. It's been nearly 30 years since any kind of success. Your team stinks. Not even a generational talent is pulling your feet from the bottom of the port o potty and it's not going to change anytime soon. At least the Flames make an honest go of things while occasionally being bad enough to go full Oiler and actually cash in a high draft pick.
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Old 08-31-2018, 11:46 AM   #178
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also, no one is going to go see aquaman.
how many superheros can ben af-lack be?
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Old 08-31-2018, 12:37 PM   #179
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Looking forward to next year the Flames are projected to have $14,117,457in cap space to split between Bennett,Tkachuk, Kulak and a Goalie. Not to mention find replacements for Lazar and Hathaway ( unless something good happens).
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Old 08-31-2018, 12:43 PM   #180
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Hanifin isn't Roman Josi, but he is a player who could grow into that type of role. I think it's a pretty good bet for the Flames to make.

I haven't run every contract and crunched every number, but it would seem that the needle on young defenceman definitely moved upwards this summer in terms of AAV contracts. So to get one with a lot of upside at this price point could really be a good move. That said, for a guy like Hamilton who is as proven as he is, these last 3 years of his contract really could bring good value for Carolina too.

Overall though I always thought this trade got the Flames a bit more time with their core. So now you have Lindholm and Hanifin for 6 more years for 9.8 AAV, to go with the other signed pieces like Monahan, Gaudreau, Giordano.

Realistically I think the Flames do need to get a really good team in place if they want another contract from Gaudreau. They basically have 3 seasons to get these results until the questions will pop up on his contract and can you keep him or do you have to trade him now for value. They are now in a position where I think they can focus entirely on getting this done. Whereas they were only 2 years away from having to make a decision on Hamilton. So to me that extra year is huge.

Let's hope Hanifin can become a Roman Josi type value contract, and that the Flames become a top end team expecting deep playoff runs every year.
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