[PGT] Flames 1 Oilers 2

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

The Oilers have been to OT 11 times in their past 20 games and won 6 in the S/O in that time

The Oilers only have 3 shootout wins this season...

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Another tight game where Elliot can't deliver....
Pah not really his fault just feeling bitter!

You are an idiot.

[Hockey Fan #751]

The players would never go for a 10-minute three-on-three. Originally, the NHL wanted to do 3 minutes of 4-on-4 followed by 4 minutes of 3-on-3 but the NHLPA shot that down because the players would have to play the extra two minutes.

[calgaryblood]

Flames were the better team. Oilers win the skills competition. I felt bad for Elliott as he still looked tired and the shootout seemed the start faster than normal and he didn't seem to have enough time to rest up. He deserved the win for the saves in O.T and late in regulation.

The Oilers are going no where with that roster.

[FiveSeven]

Thought Elliott played well but man does his high glove seem weaker than most.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by Weitz

The Oilers only have 3 shootout wins this season...

Whatever man...we don't need your FAKE NEWS here! Got it?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Poo.

3 flippin' posts.....

Sigh. Good game and Elliott was excellent in net. Not too many giveaways, and the passing looked spot on most of the time.

Flames got less than they deserved, the Grease got more.

(Obligatory note about PBP/colour commentary: why does a national game sound like an Oilers homer broadcast? One would hope for a bit of balance.)

Lol Randorf got way overexcited on a number of Oilers plays that turned out to be nothing dangerous. Namely the Eberle partial break where the puck just bounced off his stick and he didn't do anything with it, and the whole sequence after that ended in puck bobbling. And of course - THERE IT IS! THE BIG RIG! (sorry who?...oh Maroon...I wouldn't have known not being a regular Oil watcher..) then Moneyhands! Oh sorry - Monahan, right. No need for monikers this time. At least gave due diligence to Elliott at the end, which was deserved.

They tried to balance it, but it didn't work because it would be an Oiler homer-slanted comment followed by an obligatory neutral comment ("both goalies are having to come up with big saves!" - oddly at times when the Flames were the only ones actually testing the goalie - "important game for both teams!" a number of times, etc). Just ended up like a orange and blue broadcast with occasional unenthusiastic equal bone tosses to both teams. And Cassie was getting off on McDavid despite him not doing anything on most of his plays.

It's expected and hardly surprising nowadays, but perhaps the media folk can see why it's a bit annoying during a coast to coast broadcast streaming to all fans across the country, who tuned in to witness the revamped BoA, not the Oilers versus team Kazahkstan (Calgary Flames). You know, maybe a transplanted fan on the east coast wants to get their kid into the home team and would welcome hearing some excitement about the Johnny Gaudreaus and Sean Monahans too?

Bleh, it's the same stuff. End of the day even broadcasters will inevitably fanboy/girl. I like calling them out though cause it's often hilariously egregious, if you're listening for it.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Lol Randorf got way overexcited on a number of Oilers plays that turned out to be nothing dangerous. Namely the Eberle partial break where the puck just bounced off his stick and he didn't do anything with it, and the whole sequence after that ended in puck bobbling. And of course - THERE IT IS! THE BIG RIG! (sorry who?...oh Maroon...I wouldn't have known not being a regular Oil watcher..) then Moneyhands! Oh sorry - Monahan, right. No need for monikers this time. At least gave due diligence to Elliott at the end, which was deserved.

They tried to balance it, but it didn't work because it would be an Oiler homer-slanted comment followed by an obligatory neutral comment ("both goalies are having to come up with big saves!" - oddly at times when the Flames were the only ones actually testing the goalie - "important game for both teams!" a number of times, etc). Just ended up like a orange and blue broadcast with occasional unenthusiastic equal bone tosses to both teams. And Cassie was getting off on McDavid despite him not doing anything on most of his plays.

It's expected and hardly surprising nowadays, but perhaps the media folk can see why it's a bit annoying during a coast to coast broadcast streaming to all fans across the country, who tuned in to witness the revamped BoA, not the Oilers versus team Kazahkstan (Calgary Flames). You know, maybe a transplanted fan on the east coast wants to get their kid into the home team and would welcome hearing some excitement about the Johnny Gaudreaus and Sean Monahans too?

Bleh, it's the same stuff. End of the day even broadcasters will inevitably fanboy/girl. I like calling them out though cause it's often hilariously egregious, if you're listening for it.

This is absolutely, 100% false.

- Kypreos had a small segment discussing how much better the Flames defence were than the Oilers.
- the broadcast discussed, on multiple occasions, what an incredible season Backlund is having.
- Gaudreau was always mentioned in the same breath as McDavid, even though McDavid is having the better season
- in Overtime, Randorf gets noticeably excited when Gaudreau had the puck, saying "this guy can end it here", even though nothing was really happening on the play.

It gets tiresome when half the comments before, during and after a Flames vs (insert any Canadian team) game are like this. Yes, to have a balanced broadcast, you need to also praise the other team.

[Sample00]

3 on 3

How about we leave the same three guys out there until they are so physically exhausted that someone scores a goal or someone yells "Uncle"!

The gimmick stuff is just that...gimmicky.

Both teams played well tonight. Leave it as a draw! Each one gets a point and move on.

[Resolute 14]

You allow five goals total to the Jets, Devils and Oilers and lose all three.

That's a joke. The offence cost us several very important points against less than stellar opposition this week.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You allow five goals total to the Jets, Devils and Oilers and lose all three.

That's a joke. The offence cost us several very important points against less than stellar opposition this week.

5v5 this team can't score. They don't generate enough. They don't convert enough. When the PP gets one or more, they have a chance to win. Unfortunately, that means going 1-1, given how officiating is.
The answer has to be that the most skilled guys have to produce, 5v5. Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett. As that continues to not happen enough, the Flames will continue to lose more than they win. Secondary scoring has been good, for most part.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Whatever man...we don't need your FAKE NEWS here! Got it?

Best part of this post was the caps on fake news.
Nice work, Donald

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by CGY12

My only gripe on the shootout is the predictable lineup. Yes you want your star and more skilled players in that position but once goalies see shooter tendancies its hard to really have any kind of an edge. As Flames fans we know, Johnny likes the back hand 5 hole deke and Monny likes going stick side, so do opposing goaltenders, it seemed like Talbot knew what was coming both times.

I wouldn't have minded throwing a curve ball at Talbot and going something along the lines of Frolik, Brouwer, Tkachuk.

And you wouldn't have flipped out if they had lost with that line-up instead of the guys who are actually successful at the SO?

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

5v5 this team can't score. They don't generate enough. They don't convert enough. When the PP gets one or more, they have a chance to win. Unfortunately, that means going 1-1, given how officiating is.
The answer has to be that the most skilled guys have to produce, 5v5. Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett. As that continues to not happen enough, the Flames will continue to lose more than they win. Secondary scoring has been good, for most part.

Not that its made much of a difference this year so far, but I'd get Chaisson away from Gaudreau. I'm not a Chaisson hater and think he has a spot on the team, but just doesn't have the skill to play with Gaudreau outside of the PP.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

5v5 this team can't score. They don't generate enough. They don't convert enough. When the PP gets one or more, they have a chance to win. Unfortunately, that means going 1-1, given how officiating is.
The answer has to be that the most skilled guys have to produce, 5v5. Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett. As that continues to not happen enough, the Flames will continue to lose more than they win. Secondary scoring has been good, for most part.

Which has me wondering, the team play seems to have improved overall but does this coach get the most out of his skilled players or run a system that plays to their strengths? How much has Alex Chiasson affected Johnny's play, or confidence? Does Johnny need more skilled line=mates in order to complement his elite skills (which seem almost non existent right now). Some is on the players but the coach has to have a connection. With the exception of the Backlund line, Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett all seem lost right now, Bennett is not the same guy that scored 4 goals last season. The question is what exactly is ailing the Flames offense is it the system, the coach or the players or all 3?

Personally I think the team is heading in the right direction but somethings are not clicking right now.

[Monahan For Mayor]

The lack of scoring ability has been killing us the last couple weeks! I don't know how to fix it but hopefully we can get it going again.

[Heavy Jack]

As the deadline looms I feel like I don't want Treliving to make a reactionary move or anything, definitely not the time to spend assets to a detriment of the team's future but if he's searching for anything it needs to be a winger for Johnny that will help him reunite Monahan as well. Johnny - Mony - Huds was all skill and right now seeing Johnny try to play with a winger like Chiasson is painful at times.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

And you wouldn't have flipped out if they had lost with that line-up instead of the guys who are actually successful at the SO?



Not that its made much of a difference this year so far, but I'd get Chaisson away from Gaudreau. I'm not a Chaisson hater and think he has a spot on the team, but just doesn't have the skill to play with Gaudreau outside of the PP.

I don't know what the conversation was between GG and BT to bring Chaisson here or the role they saw Chaisson slotting into. Maybe GG sees something that Chaisson's attributes should work on the top line. Seems odd that GG is so hard pressed about playing Chaisson on the top line but maybe it's more a case of his options being limited. The organization seriously needs to look at adding the right type of player (or bring someone up). that Johnny can play with instead of trying to add in a "poor mans" solution.


If anything maybe the coaching should switch Tkachuk and Chaisson. Backlund and Frolik have enough chemistry that Chaisson might fit. They may even help Chaisson make overall improvements to his game. Chaisson is a right winger but Matthew Tkachuk right now might be a better fit with Johnny to get that line going.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You allow five goals total to the Jets, Devils and Oilers and lose all three.

That's a joke. The offence cost us several very important points against less than stellar opposition this week.

This team simply doesn't have the horses on offense. They are playing a better team game now but they just can't capitalize on chances. It's frustrating but that's where the team is right now as they need a skilled winger or two.

[Strange Brew]

It's possible Hartleys system masked some offensive shortcomings. The D are not providing any offense at the moment.

[Gaskal]

Dunno why Gulutzan used that shootout lineup order - would've done Versteeg, then Gaudreau, then Monahan.