Changes you hate to see

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by calf

While I appreciate that we have more platforms than ever to share ideas and information, I don’t like that some people get the idea that all opinions are valid, or, because they have an opinion, it is just as legitimate as someone else. People who are anti-vaccination, or anti GMO are specifically bad for this.

Yeah, the whole he who yells louder is right.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by calf

While I appreciate that we have more platforms than ever to share ideas and information, I don’t like that some people get the idea that all opinions are valid, or, because they have an opinion, it is just as legitimate as someone else. People who are anti-vaccination, or anti GMO are specifically bad for this.

Tell that to Leonardo "never heard of a Chinook" DiCaprio.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by calf

While I appreciate that we have more platforms than ever to share ideas and information, I don’t like that some people get the idea that all opinions are valid, or, because they have an opinion, it is just as legitimate as someone else. People who are anti-vaccination, or anti GMO are specifically bad for this.

I'm not anti-vax in general, but that whole H1N1 frenzy was crazy with queue jumpers. Somebody on here even called me a murderer for saying I probably would wait to get vaccinated.

When it comes to standard vaccinations for children, I am completely on board of course. I don't blame people for educating themselves on it though. I read up on them as much as possible and asked the doctor questions about the potential dangers, then made the educated decision. A lot of people were just saying "DO IT! DO IT!", but couldn't educate me about it. That part was annoying. Anytime a decision about health is made, people should inform themselves accordingly.

[Magnum PEI]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

I thought this thread was for changes you hate to see. Some of the original team names were for what colour the stirrups/high socks were. e.g. White Sox, Red Sox, Red Stockings.

The first World Series was in 1903. Every single player wore high socks. They did this for about the first 90 years in baseball, as the pants were the knickerbocker style, and would only come to the knee. They didn't stop wearing knickerbockers and stirrups until the 1990s, when some MLB players started wearing the long pants.

There are a few players that still wear stirrups, and a few others that wear a high sock, both with knickerbockers. The vast majority wear the full pants to their ankles.

Im pretty sure the pants were ankle-high or mid calf in the 80s and early 90s. Then Jim Thome started wearing knee socks and it ballooned from there. Maybe the majority wear full length pants now, but a lot wear knee highs, and it's a change I dont like.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by calf

While I appreciate that we have more platforms than ever to share ideas and information, I don’t like that some people get the idea that all opinions are valid, or, because they have an opinion, it is just as legitimate as someone else. People who are anti-vaccination, or anti GMO are specifically bad for this.

I'm starting to throw people who think Transformers is a better movie than Fargo into that same group.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not anti-vax in general, but that whole H1N1 frenzy was crazy with queue jumpers. Somebody on here even called me a murderer for saying I probably would wait to get vaccinated.

When it comes to standard vaccinations for children, I am completely on board of course. I don't blame people for educating themselves on it though. I read up on them as much as possible and asked the doctor questions about the potential dangers, then made the educated decision. A lot of people were just saying "DO IT! DO IT!", but couldn't educate me about it. That part was annoying. Anytime a decision about health is made, people should inform themselves accordingly.

That's dumb though because that's exactly how the whole anti-vaxxer thing found its legs - from people 'educating' themselves. I think it's better to follow the recommendations of Health Canada than having some dope Google around for misinformation.

Maybe you're a science major or a doctor or something and are able to inform yourself about vaccines, but for English majors like myself, I believe I'm far better off taking the advice of pros versus informing myself on the Internet.

[calf]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not anti-vax in general, but that whole H1N1 frenzy was crazy with queue jumpers. Somebody on here even called me a murderer for saying I probably would wait to get vaccinated.

When it comes to standard vaccinations for children, I am completely on board of course. I don't blame people for educating themselves on it though. I read up on them as much as possible and asked the doctor questions about the potential dangers, then made the educated decision. A lot of people were just saying "DO IT! DO IT!", but couldn't educate me about it. That part was annoying. Anytime a decision about health is made, people should inform themselves accordingly.

Oh, educating yourself is incredibly important, and I think a huge part of that is also being able to weed out the ideological BS that's out there, the stuff that has no real basis and basing any decision on real information. Our kid was diagnosed with a rare condition that is going to require lifelong treatment. Lots of decisions to be made, real fast...thankfully(for lack of a better term) it's rare enough that the information and research out there is from credible sources, and the options, risks, and benefits of each is laid out quite well for us so we can 1) make an informed decision, and 2) ensure we're good advocates for his health as he grows up.

[calf]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

I'm starting to throw people who think Transformers is a better movie than Fargo into that same group.

Wait, which Transformers movie?

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Im pretty sure the pants were ankle-high or mid calf in the 80s and early 90s. Then Jim Thome started wearing knee socks and it ballooned from there. Maybe the majority wear full length pants now, but a lot wear knee highs, and it's a change I dont like.

You are 100% wrong. Here's a picture from the 1903 World Series, with everyone wearing knee high socks.

Spoiler!

The first World Series picture I can find with full length pants is Joe Carter with the Blue Jays in 1993. That means they went 90 years wearing the knickerbocker pants. Jim Thome wore the high socks, because everyone on Cleveland wore the high socks in 1991. Here's their uniform:

Spoiler!

Jim Thome has worn high socks his entire major league career. Some player pulled the stirrups high up their legs so little of it would show, which is why many go with the two in one sock now. Thome didn't start the trend of high socks. He continued it because for the last 113 years, baseball players have worn them that way. The change was from knee high socks to full pants, not the other way around.

You don't have to like the knee high socks. I don't care either way, but knee high socks are not new, nor are they a change. Dickie, your example, has been wearing them since he was a rookie in 2001, sometimes with stirrups, and sometimes with the two in one sock.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by calf

Wait, which Transformers movie?

Does it matter?


http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=1450

[calf]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Does it matter?


http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=1450

It depends...are we talking about animated or live action? Mark Wahlberg or Shia Lebeouf? Shia Lebouf with or without Megan Fox?

[BurningYears]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

You are 100% wrong. Here's a picture from the 1903 World Series, with everyone wearing knee high socks.



The first World Series picture I can find with full length pants is Joe Carter with the Blue Jays in 1993. That means they went 90 years wearing the knickerbocker pants. Jim Thome wore the high socks, because everyone on Cleveland wore the high socks in 1991. Here's their uniform:



Jim Thome has worn high socks his entire major league career. Some player pulled the stirrups high up their legs so little of it would show, which is why many go with the two in one sock now. Thome didn't start the trend of high socks. He continued it because for the last 113 years, baseball players have worn them that way. The change was from knee high socks to full pants, not the other way around.

You don't have to like the knee high socks. I don't care either way, but knee high socks are not new, nor are they a change. Dickie, your example, has been wearing them since he was a rookie in 2001, sometimes with stirrups, and sometimes with the two in one sock.

I definitely am not happy with the long pant situation that a bunch of the guys are wearing now a days:

Spoiler!

[peter12]

Yeah, the knee-high sock look is classic baseball, and obviously, the best look.

[shermanator]

I miss seeing a new set of boobs I've never seen before in real life. Married life, AMIRITE?

[Magnum PEI]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

You are 100% wrong. Here's a picture from the 1903 World Series, with everyone wearing knee high socks.

Spoiler!

The first World Series picture I can find with full length pants is Joe Carter with the Blue Jays in 1993. That means they went 90 years wearing the knickerbocker pants. Jim Thome wore the high socks, because everyone on Cleveland wore the high socks in 1991. Here's their uniform:

Spoiler!

Jim Thome has worn high socks his entire major league career. Some player pulled the stirrups high up their legs so little of it would show, which is why many go with the two in one sock now. Thome didn't start the trend of high socks. He continued it because for the last 113 years, baseball players have worn them that way. The change was from knee high socks to full pants, not the other way around.

You don't have to like the knee high socks. I don't care either way, but knee high socks are not new, nor are they a change. Dickie, your example, has been wearing them since he was a rookie in 2001, sometimes with stirrups, and sometimes with the two in one sock.

Jim Thome absolutely started the trend. When I first started watching baseball nobody wore knee socks.

And obviously I know it's a classic look from the early part of the last century, but it's a look that went away because it looks ridiculous and now it's back.

[Calgary14]

The new Carl's Jr to be built in Bragg Creek. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...ersy-1.3733623

[jammies]

Originally Posted by shermanator

I miss seeing a new set of boobs I've never seen before in real life. Married life, AMIRITE?

Leaving aside the dubious taste of such a comment, you're clearly already ON the internet, right?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Re: baseball socks and stirrups etc.

You its are both right in a way.

This was usually the fashion up until the 90s:



Then long pants took over. However the above is neither the current trend, nor is it what Thome popularized.

I would argue that Thome is largely responsible for the resurgence and popularity. He's also well known for mastering the look.

Lukas says former Phillie Jim Thome - who, when he played in Philadelphia, wore the Liberty Bell stirrup - represents the ideal.

Thome wears his pants mid-calf, what Lukas believes is the iconic baseball image - not too high, not too low.

Furthermore, Lukas says, Thome is one of the best and last practitioners of "blousing," where a player pulls the elastic in his pant leg up to the knee, then neatly folds over the remaining fabric, forming a perfect, slightly flaring cuff at mid-calf.

"Jim Thome is the master at pant cuffery," said Lukas

It was also that a lot of call ups and rookies wore the high socks because often only minor league teams continued to enforce uniform rules like wearing high socks and stirrups. Now it is totally fashion.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by jammies

Leaving aside the dubious taste of such a comment, you're clearly already ON the internet, right?

Some may think differnet, but the internet isn't real life

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Yeah but if everyone gets them wrong then no progress will be made. So what's the point?

A large sample size reduces this risk quite significantly.