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Old 07-31-2014, 07:04 PM   #161
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Again, please point out where he said he'd smash your car with his doors. His post said no such thing.
I've had someone who smashed my car refer to it as something similar to a penis extender, my assumption that Resolute is the type to carelessly throw his door into my car is a perfectly rational assumption, based on my experience. Like btimbit, I really have no problem with people who don't care about cars, that's fine... but I don't see why those of who do care are in the wrong.
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I've had someone who smashed my car refer to it as something similar to a penis extender, my assumption that Resolute is the type to carelessly throw his door into my car is a perfectly rational assumption, based on my experience. Like btimbit, I really have no problem with people who don't care about cars, that's fine... but I don't see why those of who do care are in the wrong.
Did you even read his earlier post? He specifically said that people who ding other people's doors are being disrespectful.

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Dinging up someone's car or parking right on their door when they are properly between the lines demonstrates a lack of respect. Simply parking next to someone does not.
And he's right. As long as you stay within the designated lines, there's nothing wrong with parking in a vacant spot even if it happens to be next to another parked vehicle. People who think that parking near the edge of the lot entitles them to a private buffer zone are delusional.
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I've had someone who smashed my car refer to it as something similar to a penis extender, my assumption that Resolute is the type to carelessly throw his door into my car is a perfectly rational assumption, based on my experience. Like btimbit, I really have no problem with people who don't care about cars, that's fine... but I don't see why those of who do care are in the wrong.

That's ridiculous.
Door dings don't wreck cars, it's almost impossible. It's a dick move, but it's not wrecking your car.

It's fine to care about your car, but don't act like Resolute is the bad guy because he doesn't car about your car, nobody but you cares about your car.

Car guys, while I disagree with the fundamental idea of caring that much about material goods, are a fine bunch. That said, I think they're seen as in the "wrong" when they think everyone else is out to get them and is suddenly a disrespectful second class citizen for parking anywhere near them.

It's just a bit of silliness. Have your set of rules if you want, but don't be mad that nobody else cares about them.
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Did you even read his earlier post? He specifically said that people who ding other people's doors are being disrespectful.

And he's right. As long as you stay within the designated lines, there's nothing wrong with parking in a vacant spot even if it happens to be next to another parked vehicle. People who think that parking near the edge of the lot entitles them to a private buffer zone are delusional.
You're reading way too much into it. Private zone? Entitled? No, people just don't want their stuff harmed, why is that so bad?

If someone went nuts and assaulted someone over this I'd understand why you're so upset. But this started as a simple gear grinder when it happened again to pylon.

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That's ridiculous.
Door dings don't wreck cars, it's almost impossible. It's a dick move, but it's not wrecking your car.

It's fine to care about your car, but don't act like Resolute is the bad guy because he doesn't car about your car, nobody but you cares about your car.

Car guys, while I disagree with the fundamental idea of caring that much about material goods, are a fine bunch. That said, I think they're seen as in the "wrong" when they think everyone else is out to get them and is suddenly a disrespectful second class citizen for parking anywhere near them.

It's just a bit of silliness. Have your set of rules if you want, but don't be mad that nobody else cares about them.
To the bolded, I don't really see how it's any different than any other hobby.

Sure Acey seems a little over the top angry about it but he said his car's been damaged by a big door swing, I'd be angry too. I'm sure you would be as well. So now he tries to park far away to try his best avoid it in the future, and despite his attempts, there's still some guy that wants to park right next to him despite being surrounded by empty spots. Surely you can see how that'd be frustrating?

Say you're taking a piss in a public bathroom. There's 10+ urinals, all un-used, you go the furthest one and start doing your business. Someone comes in, walks past all the empty ones, and starts pissing right next to you. Surely you find that weird? That's how I think about it in the parking lot too. If there's LOTS of empty spots at the back of the lot, why in the world would you choose one right next to somebody else?

I simply don't understand the thought process. And I know to most people there is no thought process, they simply park wherever. Still find it annoying though.

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Say you're taking a piss in a public bathroom. There's 10+ urinals, all un-used, you go the furthest one and start doing your business. Someone comes in, walks past all the empty ones, and starts pissing right next to you. Surely you find that weird? That's how I think about it in the parking lot too. If there's LOTS of empty spots at the back of the lot, why in the world would you choose one right next to somebody else?
Unless you park with your dick out those are completely different situations.

I love cars and know the pain of having mine dinged in a parking lot, but getting upset when someone parks beside you, without damaging your ride, is going too far. No harm, no foul.
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You're reading way too much into it. Private zone? Entitled? No, people just don't want their stuff harmed, why is that so bad?

If someone went nuts and assaulted someone over this I'd understand why you're so upset. But this started as a simple gear grinder when it happened again to pylon.
Here's pylon's original post that started this tangent:

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I got reverse bad parked on yesterday.

I had just got my BMW back from the detailer after spending 400 bucks getting a full cut polish a couple door ding removals and a chip repair. I felt great about my car, it looked like it rolled out of a showroom. So I have to stop at Walmart on my way home and grab a few things, and wanting to preserve the car in it's like new, glossy, wet glass looking condition for at least a couple days I park it about 8-10 stalls down from the next car in a totally empty area. There wasn't a car in any direction for probably 100 feet. I come out, and there is a rusty, beat up, POS late 80's, powder blue Thunderbird missing a hub cap parked right next to me.

Not the end of the world, but when you see a relatively nice car, parked all by it's lonesome, in the middle of nowhere, it is kinda an unwritten rule, and mutual understanding that it's usually a car guy, just trying to avoid a door ding or two. Probably just someone RL trolling, but it's just one of those things you don't do.
So let me get this straight: his car did not get dinged by the other driver, and yet this somehow still upset him because apparently everyone is supposed to be aware of an "unwritten rule" and have a "mutual understanding" that if someone is parked near the back of the lot they're a "car guy" and you're supposed to respect their space (more than you do other cars?) and not park anywhere near them? That's a load of BS right there. As long as I'm fully within the lines of my space and don't ding other vehicles, I'll park wherever I damn well please and not think anything of it.
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As long as I'm fully within the lines of my space and don't ding other vehicles, I'll park wherever I damn well please and not think anything of it.
I'm glad that you don't hit people's cars, and I'd be glad to have you park next to me. Most people aren't as careful as you, so I attempt to take necessary precautions, just because why not save my car from dings and get a few seconds more exercise at the same time? Two birds with one stone. I don't see how that makes me entitled.

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I don't think that, nor did I ever say that... at least I'm not the only delusional one in this thread.

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It's fine to care about your car, but don't act like Resolute is the bad guy because he doesn't car about your car, nobody but you cares about your car.
You seem to be hung up on the fact that we're talking about cars, why don't we switch it to something else? I don't care about you or anything you own either, but I'm not going to carelessly damage your things. This is fundamental human courtesy, is it not? Why are cars exempt from this fundamental courtesy because they are the first thing that comes to mind when one thinks of material possessions?

How is this different than me letting my dog crap all over your lawn because, like Chill Cosby, I only care about my own lawn? I realize you care about your lawn, but don't act like I care about the fact that my dog is ####ting all over your lawn because nobody but you cares about your lawn.

No... I don't let my dog crap all over your lawn, because despite not caring about you, I have some human decency.

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How is this different than me letting my dog crap all over your lawn because, like Chill Cosby, I only care about my own lawn? I realize you care about your lawn, but don't act like I care about the fact that my dog is ####ting all over your lawn because nobody but you cares about your lawn.

No... I don't let my dog crap all over your lawn, because despite not caring about you, I have some human decency.


You might want to step away from the keyboard for a bit.
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Yeah, I'll take my desire to be polite and kind to others and their property out in the wild so others can experience it as well.
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Unless you park with your dick out those are completely different situations.

I love cars and know the pain of having mine dinged in a parking lot, but getting upset when someone parks beside you, without damaging your ride, is going too far. No harm, no foul.
Wait, that's not a normal thing? I do drive stick after all.


But seriously, I don't see them as that different. It's about respecting peoples space, and in this case, also respecting peoples property. You're absolutely right when you say no harm no foul, but why not try and prevent any possibility of harm if possible?


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So let me get this straight: his car did not get dinged by the other driver, and yet this somehow still upset him because apparently everyone is supposed to be aware of an "unwritten rule" and have a "mutual understanding" that if someone is parked near the back of the lot they're a "car guy" and you're supposed to respect their space (more than you do other cars?) and not park anywhere near them? That's a load of BS right there. As long as I'm fully within the lines of my space and don't ding other vehicles, I'll park wherever I damn well please and not think anything of it.
It's got nothing to do with whether or not the person is a car guy. Doesn't matter if it's a brand new Ferrari driven by an enthusiast or a 16 year old rusty Pontiac driven by a teenage girl who doesn't know anything about it other than what colour it is. If there's a dozen+ empty spaces why take the one next to the only other car around? It's simply rude.

If I'm sitting on an empty bus would you come sit right next to me? It wouldn't be breaking any rules, so why not? You can sit anywhere you damn well please right? Who cares if some people find it rude

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Myself I've used certain parking spots because they are in the shade. Other times in the winter I'll try to avoid parking facing a north wind. Trying to invade someones mind to determine that they have no reason for parking where they do, even if it is right next to you, is presumptuous.
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So let me get this straight: his car did not get dinged by the other driver, and yet this somehow still upset him because apparently everyone is supposed to be aware of an "unwritten rule" and have a "mutual understanding" that if someone is parked near the back of the lot they're a "car guy" and you're supposed to respect their space (more than you do other cars?) and not park anywhere near them? That's a load of BS right there. As long as I'm fully within the lines of my space and don't ding other vehicles, I'll park wherever I damn well please and not think anything of it.
So, by them parking inside the lines, they are actually wanting three spots. If they parked like a dbag, and took up two spots, people could park on the adjacent spots. The mutual understanding means they are worse than the jerks who purposely take up multiple spots.

I drive an X5 and I usually park in the first spot I see. I understand it's a public parking lot, and people are bound to park beside me. As long as they stay inside the lines, I'm more than happy to have them beside me. If I didn't want people to park beside me, I'd keep my car at home. Actually that won't work, as I don't own the spot beside me. The guy beside me used to have a Corolla, and now has a Porsche 911. I wonder if the rules changed on my parking, because he upgraded his car.
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Say you're taking a piss in a public bathroom. There's 10+ urinals, all un-used, you go the furthest one and start doing your business. Someone comes in, walks past all the empty ones, and starts pissing right next to you. Surely you find that weird? That's how I think about it in the parking lot too. If there's LOTS of empty spots at the back of the lot, why in the world would you choose one right next to somebody else?
I'd have an issue with the guy, if when he parked at the urinal he swung his balls out and they dinged my dong. Other than that, I don't really care if a guy pees beside me in a public urinal.
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I'm glad that you don't hit people's cars, and I'd be glad to have you park next to me. Most people aren't as careful as you, so I attempt to take necessary precautions, just because why not save my car from dings and get a few seconds more exercise at the same time? Two birds with one stone. I don't see how that makes me entitled.



I don't think that, nor did I ever say that... at least I'm not the only delusional one in this thread.



You seem to be hung up on the fact that we're talking about cars, why don't we switch it to something else? I don't care about you or anything you own either, but I'm not going to carelessly damage your things. This is fundamental human courtesy, is it not? Why are cars exempt from this fundamental courtesy because they are the first thing that comes to mind when one thinks of material possessions?

How is this different than me letting my dog crap all over your lawn because, like Chill Cosby, I only care about my own lawn? I realize you care about your lawn, but don't act like I care about the fact that my dog is ####ting all over your lawn because nobody but you cares about your lawn.

No... I don't let my dog crap all over your lawn, because despite not caring about you, I have some human decency.

You seem to be hung up on the idea that most people who park beside other people at going to ding doors. You have a weird obsession with the idea that parking close = vehicle damage, and 99% of the time that isn't true.

Trust me, most people are exactly as careful as that. Getting your door dinged is an aberration, not the norm.

That's the only reason I don't understand what you're talking about. To use your own example, it's like getting mad when someone walks their dog past your lawn, because you assume every dog within a foot of your lawn is going to take a dump on it.

It's crazy. Not human decency. Crazy.
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Yeah, I generally hit a spot center-back just to park as quickly as possible. Though I don't take up more than one spot.

I just don't get those people that circle and circle to get a close spot thinking it saves them time. Doofus, you just spent 90 seconds to avoid a 30 second walk.

Unless the person is handicapped or injured somehow, parking closer to the back is just easier.
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No, you don't get it because you don't care. Cars aren't important to you, and that's perfectly Ok. But just because you don't care about something doesn't mean it doesn't matter. I like my car, so I do what I can to prevent damage. I drive defensively, and I also Park defensively. Why this seems to offend you is beyond me.
You are making a series of large and rather foolish assumptions. Despite Acey's self-indulgent whining, I do take care not to damage other people's property. However, the argument that it is disrespectful to park next to you is pure egotism on your part. It doesn't matter how large the lot is or how many open stalls exist. There is no reason why anyone should look at your car in the parking lot and endeavour to park farther away from it. The fact that this offends you so much is pretty damned funny.
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Unless your car is a Ferrari or something, I don't even notice the car I am parking beside.
Which is the perhaps biggest tragedy of all. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO NOTICE THEIR CAR! (* From a safe distance only, outside of unwritten buffer zone).

Personally, I separate the diskish act of dinging doors from the normal act of parking a car in a public space.
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It doesn't matter how large the lot is or how many open stalls exist. There is no reason why anyone should look at your car in the parking lot and endeavour to park farther away from it.
Actually Res, I posted one earlier, fwiw.

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Folks, there are other reasons someone might want to park away from people, and therefore it's not cool to park right beside them if at all possible to avoid.

For example, I had blown my ACL out and could barely bend my knee. My car sits low already and to get out of it was very painful. Thus I parked well away from everyone so I could open the door fully and not have to bend my knee as much.
Even to this day, I have periods where getting in/out of my car is painful if I can't open the door all the way. Street parking is nice. Lot parking isn't, unless I park well away from everyone.

I just find it odd that of all the stalls someone could park in (assuming again there is NO ONE even close, say 10-15 spots away) that another driver would opt to park next to someone else.

Heck, if I had kids, I likely would park further away just to ensure they DON'T ding someone else's door.

Yes, when the lots get busy, I have no problem with someone parking next. That, however, isn't the point. Some here have already say they do it intentionally. I am putting forward a non-"car guy" reason for not doing it.

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I park where ever it will take me the least amount of effort to guide my vehicle into the stall. If that happens to be beside your loner car because of my angle and speed of entry, so be it.

Stop taking it so personally.
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Shawnski - The problem with that is that nobody can read minds. Nobody can tell if some random car in the lot is driven by someone like you with an injury, or someone like Acey with an ego. Or even just an average person who doesn't care either way. As such, I can't blame anyone who happens to park next to another car.
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