Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

[lanny9]

Originally Posted by Igster

Hey lanny9...At least Obama didn't look stunned and continue to read to the children.

Really, you are going to talk about a president that just found out that an American landmark and thousands of people has been attacked by terrorists? Give me a break!

[Igster]

Originally Posted by lanny9

Really, you are going to talk about a president that just found out that an American landmark and thousands of people has been attacked by terrorists? Give me a break!

Nope. Just showing how crazy you are sounding right now. Relax man.

[lanny9]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Why?

So it is alright to take down a commercial airliner? Come on, these acts cannot go unpunished.

[MuscleOnTheBlvd]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Obama is soft because the U.S. is soft right now due to being exhausted (economically and militarily) from fighting 2 wars in the past 10 years.

I suppose that too but this is scary stuff to me. That's also why I think the big bombs will be coming out cause they can't afford to fight these wars anymore.

[Senator Clay Davis]

As you might expect this (and virtually all other social media) has been deleted. Of course these morons clearly don't realize they can't control the world media like they can in Russia...

[driveway]

You mean like the increased sanctions that Obama and Putin had a phone conversation about this morning? You mean sanctions like that?

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/worl...TTK/story.html

Idiots.


Ukranian president being reported on CNN as classifying it as a "terrorist action" not a "catastrophe" or "incident."

[Shnabdabber]

Has to be imperative to gather all the facts before jumping to conclusions... Blaming Russia at this stage would be unwise, my fear is if the crash site is compromised due to interference from rebels/whomever, those facts may be hard to gather.

Imposing sanctions against Russia is a game they can play as well, again all the facts are needed here. Even if it was a "accident" it surely must be met with some sort of response, 300 civilians dead is absolutely sickening.

Feel terrible for all those affected, my hope is that this doesn't snowball and pull other nations into the conflict.

CaptainCrunch, if it comes out that this was indeed no accident and NATO refuses to do more than stack troops along borders, what do you think the odds are that the US acts unilaterally on this situation, with more than just sanctions? I can't imagine the death of 25 odd Americans will be taken lightly, especially if the airliner was specifically targeted. I know it's early to say one way or another, but does anyone really want to poke the bear so to speak? However if this was deliberate, there's no way other nation states sit still on this is there?

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

So again, I ask, what do you suggest?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by lanny9

So it is alright to take down a commercial airliner? Come on, these acts cannot go unpunished.

So what you do is get the facts of what happened and take appropriate actions against the parties involved.

You don't declare war and hit the nuke button before you know what happened.

Put down the keyboard and walk away for a bit, your hate for Obama is clouding your judgement.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by lanny9

Come on, these acts cannot go unpunished.

push away from the keyboard

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by MuscleOnTheBlvd

I think the real issue is the Americans, Obama, is to soft and needs to assert himself.

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Peace in the world is nothing but a pipe dream and anyone is dreaming if you don't believe it takes the U.S to step in and hold the peace.

Are you an American?

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by lanny9

So it is alright to take down a commercial airliner? Come on, these acts cannot go unpunished.

Please tell me how you think Gorbachev should have responded after the United States shot down a commercial airliner in 1988? Should that act have gone unpunished, or should the Soviet Union have called for sanctions and/or military strikes against American forces?

[lanny9]

Originally Posted by Igster

Nope. Just showing how crazy you are sounding right now. Relax man.

Sounding crazy? I am very relaxed "man", but am one who lived through the cold war and am seeing the same things happening. Putin making the same moves as the Soviet leaders did in the day. I don't know how old you are but history can teach you many things, be it if you lived it or studied it, we are going down that same path.

Just because you don't think a strong response is necessary does not mean the rest of us or the world leaders should be making statements that this is never acceptable.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Shnabdabber

CaptainCrunch, if it comes out that this was indeed no accident and NATO refuses to do more than stack troops along borders, what do you think the odds are that the US acts unilaterally on this situation, with more than just sanctions? I can't imagine the death of 25 odd Americans will be taken lightly, especially if the airliner was specifically targeted. I know it's early to say one way or another, but does anyone really want to poke the bear so to speak? However if this was deliberate, there's no way other nation states sit still on this is there?

What did the US do when it had 60 or so killed when the Russians (USSR) shot down that Korean flight........not much, but GPS did become availible to the masses, IIRC.

[ResAlien]

There's a time to think and there's a time to act. This, gentlemen, is no time to think.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

#### yeah!

[MuscleOnTheBlvd]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

Are you an American?

No, I'm not but what's that got to do with anything? I don't want their soldiers dying either and that's why we're in a situation with few options.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Please tell me how you think Gorbachev should have responded after the United States shot down a commercial airliner in 1988? Should that act have gone unpunished, or should the Soviet Union have called for sanctions and/or military strikes against American forces?

Right at the height of Reagan-mania no less!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by lanny9

Sounding crazy? I am very relaxed "man", but am one who lived through the cold war and am seeing the same things happening. Putin making the same moves as the Soviet leaders did in the day. I don't know how old you are but history can teach you many things, be it if you lived it or studied it, we are going down that same path.

Just because you don't think a strong response is necessary does not mean the rest of us or the world leaders should be making statements that this is never acceptable.

Says the man that has no fear of being in the firing line.....

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by lanny9

So it is alright to take down a commercial airliner? Come on, these acts cannot go unpunished.

As has been said. You gather all the facts, find out exactly what happened, take your time, and decide the best course of action.

Shooting from the hip isn't intelligent in any remote way.