02-06-2014, 02:15 PM
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#161
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
In the 1950s, western society has its strongest economic growth across all classes.
The strength of the Union is largely unequaled, Veterans are compensated for their sacrifices and progressively offered means through which to re-enter and prosper in society. A high-tax rate insured the prosperity of nations as a whole vs. enriching individuals. In Canada, the top marginal tax rate for income over 400 000 dropped from 80 percent in 1971 to 46 percent in 1994. Taxes on corporate income dropped from 3.9 percent to 1.8 percent as a percentage of GDP.
As the dominant voting demographic in North America, it becomes increasingly difficult to develop an alternate narrative for the Boomer generation.
Reagan. Mulroney. Thatcher. That is the legacy.
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Wow - what a sad, misguided, and oblivious view of the world.
Please show me a nation where high tax rates (such as 80%) have resulted in ensuring "the prosperity of nations as a whole"
The socialism you appear to be espousing here has failed to deliver anything close to a viable society where young people have the opportunity to get a quality university education and be able to live in enough comfort and freedom whereby they can sit and and whine about their 'horrible' lives on the internet, such as you do.
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02-06-2014, 03:17 PM
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#162
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I hope this observation contributes to the conversation.
My parents were born slightly before the boomers but I don't think they lived any different, I think it's fair to say I was raised by boomers.
My dad earned at least a middle class income, my mom never had a job outside of the house and gardening. They scrimped & saved for everything they ever bought like used furniture pieces, a new mattress or carpeting etc.
I would guess the majority of men joined the workforce before finishing high school and learned their skills on the job. Families were much larger and despite what was mentioned before, putting food on the table was a major concern for most families.
I live in a fairly well off small city and what I see would be unimaginable in my parents early life. The disposable income of, lets say mid 20's people is 10 fold of what my parents had.
My dad started working full time at about 13 yr's old and worked his way into surveying for a large city. I assume he was making a good wage in the 60's and then very, very good wages building hydro dams in BC in the 70's and 80's but they still had to save for any substantial purchase.
Now it's common for a gen X/Y person to join the workforce much, much later in life, drive a new, or nearly car from the time they get their licence when the boomers often couldn't afford a new car until their thirties.
I could go on and on, sorry for the long post, the boomers scrimped and saved far more than people do today so I really don't think it's fair to blame the boomers.
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02-06-2014, 04:58 PM
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#163
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Please show me a nation where high tax rates (such as 80%) have resulted in ensuring "the prosperity of nations as a whole"
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I'll ignore the ad-hominem aspect and respond to the appeal for proof.
The answer is, The United States of America, 1933 to 1969.
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Calling puckluck.
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Please don't.
Last edited by Flash Walken; 02-06-2014 at 05:07 PM.
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02-06-2014, 05:19 PM
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#164
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I'll ignore the ad-hominem aspect and respond to the appeal for proof.
The answer is, The United States of America, 1933 to 1969.
Please don't.
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It was a post-war tax.
That WWII was a bit of a thing
Somehow, despite under-taxing the population, hospitals, schools, universities, streets, transit systems, medical conditions, foods, and literally every other aspect of life and society, have all improved immeasurably.
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02-06-2014, 05:22 PM
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A post WWI tax?
The New Deal was a bit of a thing.
You are very clearly not interested in having a discussion.
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02-06-2014, 05:32 PM
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#166
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There isn't anything to discuss here - the topic is whether gen Yers have it tough. The high taxes you refer to were for rather unusual circumstances. They were never meant to be permanent, and if you are in any way implying that the US was built on high taxes and then boomers came along and changed the rules, well then no, I am not interested in a discussion.
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02-06-2014, 05:38 PM
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#167
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
There isn't anything to discuss here - the topic is whether gen Yers have it tough. The high taxes you refer to were for rather unusual circumstances. They were never meant to be permanent, and if you are in any way implying that the US was built on high taxes and then boomers came along and changed the rules, well then no, I am not interested in a discussion.
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You didn't watch the video, did you?
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02-06-2014, 05:39 PM
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#168
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One of the Nine
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MOD EDIT: Off topic
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02-06-2014, 05:46 PM
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#169
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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02-06-2014, 05:49 PM
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#170
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Wow - what a sad, misguided, and oblivious view of the world.
Please show me a nation where high tax rates (such as 80%) have resulted in ensuring "the prosperity of nations as a whole"
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Something tells me that you don't understand how tax brackets work.
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02-06-2014, 05:53 PM
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#171
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MOD EDIT: Off topic
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02-06-2014, 06:15 PM
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#172
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MOD EDIT: Off topic
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02-06-2014, 06:21 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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MOD EDIT: Off topic
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02-15-2014, 12:01 PM
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#174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I'll ignore the ad-hominem aspect and respond to the appeal for proof.
The answer is, The United States of America, 1933 to 1969.
Please don't.
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*crickets*
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02-15-2014, 12:07 PM
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#175
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Not a casual user
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What did I miss?
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02-15-2014, 12:11 PM
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#176
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Originally Posted by Dion
What did I miss?
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Off-topic, petty BS that ruins threads.
Hopefully we can just ignore it.
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