[Rumour] Nazem Kadri on trade block

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Well, every trade proposal that includes Liles must be reworked now...

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Your example using that logic is very dumb.

Not at all.

That post makes it out to seem that Toronto was offering Kadri to Calgary, but Sutter said no. Burke had just recently just drafted Kadri, 7th overall and likely wasn't looking to move him.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Using that logic..I still cant believe Feaster didn't get Crosby back in the Iginla deal.

lol wow, did you plan for that comparison to be so outrageous, or did it just happen?

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Using that logic..I still cant believe Feaster didn't get Crosby back in the Iginla deal.

Getting a good prospect back is realistic. Getting the best player in the game is not.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by nik-

lol wow, did you plan for that comparison to be so outrageous, or did it just happen?

Should of got Malkin also. I mean what was Feaster thinking?

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Should of got Malkin also. I mean what was Feaster thinking?

Wow just go troll somewhere else dude.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Getting a good prospect back is realistic. Getting the best player in the game is not.

Sure, it would of been nice to get a good prospect back in that deal, but perhaps Toronto was want willing to move one of them in the deal.

Awful trade, but saying you're not sure how we didn't get Kadri back without any evidence that he was ever offered makes no sense.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by DOOM

Sure, it would of been nice to get a good prospect back in that deal, but perhaps Toronto was want willing to move one of them in the deal.

Awful trade, but saying you're not sure how we didn't get Kadri back without any evidence that he was ever offered makes no sense.

Obviously it didn't have to be Kadri, but it was idiotic that there wasn't one piece for the future. Asking for a prospect when you are sending one of your best assets back is not only realistic, it's expected. If the Leafs didn't agree to that, Sutter should've walked away...simple as that. Unfortunately for us, none of the other GMs seemed to even get a shot.

That trade alone set us back a couple of years.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

So Igster... your favourite player is Phaneuf?

Yup. You figure that out...

[browna]

Originally Posted by fotiou22

There isn't a human being on the planet with a keener understanding of Kadri's precise value right now than Burke. Not only that, he knows the exact Calgary assets to dangle in front of Nonis. He knows Toronto's organizational blind spots.

This is what Fletcher did to us with Gilmour. We've waited two decades for vengeance. Let it be a blockbuster served ice cold.

While I agree with your assessment of Burke knowing exactly what he's getting with Kadri, and with what Toronto needs, I also don't assume that Burke is necessarily trying to get to the front of the line with whatever it takes to get him and that the Flames fleecing (let alone "winning") the the Leafs in a trade to get him, is a blockbuster.

As with all Leafs, there's a definitive percentage of uptalk on a player's ability/importance/potential, due to all the media heads needing to fill radio/TV airtime and newspaper articles with Leaf related news. Kadri, a local kid, who had run ins with previous coaches and had/has a bit of the attitude, gets and has gotten that air time. A shortened lockout year, is/should not be the basis for anyone to be basing projected stats, and that's his only decent year in the league.

This year, he has as many goals as Monahan. He plays over 2 minutes more per game, and has a poorer faceoff percentage then #23. A good player, and the ability to be maybe a really good player...but if he's on the block, it's quite possible that Caryle is tiring of him as Wilson did...years later.

[Vinny01]

This situation reminds me of Seguin this summer and I think it is a matter of time before they move Kadri. Watching him get just roasted by Carlyle on the bench at the end if regulation continues to show that patience has worn extremely thin with the Leafs and this player.

[flamesfan1297]

Originally Posted by nik-

lol wow, did you plan for that comparison to be so outrageous, or did it just happen?

Originally Posted by Table 5

Getting a good prospect back is realistic. Getting the best player in the game is not.

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Wow just go troll somewhere else dude.

I believe they were being sarcastic, not serious

[stemit14]

I agree that it's just a matter of time before kadri gets traded. I just hope Burke stays away from it u less he can e had for a steal... That means no trading prospects or picks for him. That means only being willing to trade vets like stajan, cammalleri, stempniak, etc. I know it's unrealistic (if not impossible) for that to happen but I really don't want to give up guys like baertschi, gaudreau, klimchuk, or poirier for him. I would be ok with backlund being considered in the trade but I'm nervous about giving up in him.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

So Sven has no value? You fail to mention him when discussing the deal

I thought it was pretty self-explanatory. The deal proposed by kekatch was Baertschi, Brodie, Cammalleri (Half Salary), Berra for Kadri, Gardiner, Reimer, and Liles.

I started off by saying Kadri is far and away the best asset in the deal. So tell me how did the proposal make up for this? Cammy for half a year? Dumping Liles salary? It's not that I don't think Sven has no value, I think Cammy for half a year and dumping Liles salary at the expense of Kadri has little value. Sven for Kadri simply isn't a good deal for the Leafs right now. The goalie swap between Reimer and Berra? Edge Flames. Swap between Brodie and Gardiner? If it's not a wash currently then at most this is a slight edge to Leafs. Like I said, only reason the Leafs make this deal is if they want to dump Kadri and they really like Brodie a whole lot more than Gardiner otherwise why make the deal?

Do you think Kadri for Sven straight up is a fair deal? Sven, one year of Cammy (at half salary), and dumping of Liles for Kadri? Unless you're looking to dump Kadri, why would you make this deal? That's a steal for the Flames if that happens. So my point is Brodie has to make up for the fact that Kadri is far and away the best asset in the deal by being better than Gardiner.

[saXon]

Anyone else who watched the winter classic see Carlyle go off on Kadri, mouthing some some 4 letter words behind a veil of snowfall?


It was epic.

[EYE_Overstand]

Realistically who has the pieces to get Kadri? And who could use him?

1. Florida
2. Nashville
3. Edmonton
4. PHX
5. Dallas
6. Buffalo

These are probably the same teams who could land E.Kane (maybe not dallas) as well.

[gunnner]

I see a Kadri for E. Kane deal as the most likely scenario, although I bet Burke is discussing Kadri with Toronto, I think some other team will over pay for Kadri.

[Vinny01]

I don't see Winnipeg taking Kadri back for Kane. They are not going to swap one problem child for another.

[Caged Great]

Would you do a trade of Sven + Brodie + Cammalleri for Kadri + Finn or another similar prospect?

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Would you do a trade of Sven + Brodie + Cammalleri for Kadri + Finn or another similar prospect?

what's with the love affair with kadri? He seems to be a mouthy entitled punk that TO wants to dump, why do we want their problems. And no we don't want to get rid of Brodie.