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Old 07-04-2013, 01:37 PM   #161
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He scored 10 goals. Something only 4 players on our team managed to do last year. Based on that he should fit in just well
The thing is scoring goals wasn't the problem last year. We were 11th best and iirc the 29th worse team defensively.

This IMO is a step backwards.
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:44 PM   #162
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Like I said earlier in the thread, we need defensive help. And I see a perfect trading partner right now in Nashville.

They didn't get a chance to land their big producing forward in Barkov, and there was no way to turn down Jones, but now they're overloaded with defensive talents and still not much, probably not enough to get them into the playoffs up front.

Cammalleri, Stempniak, even Glencross. Any of those guys would be a big help to the Preds offense right now, and they have young developing D in Ellis, Blum that we most certainly could use more of.
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:48 PM   #163
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Baertschi-Backlund-Hudler
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Raymond-Stajan-Jones
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That's how I see it right now...

Bouma, Horak, Jackman are "question-marks"...and we still need a 2nd line center
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:49 PM   #164
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Nashville or Phoenix seem like the two most likely teams to trade defensemen.

I think the two most common names for Phoenix is Morris and Klesla. Morris is too old, but Klesla could be had for pretty cheap. Maybe even Stone (Calgary Ties). And Phoenix could use a Winger, something we have plenty of.
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:50 PM   #165
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It all depends on the contract for me. I don't want them spending a lot of money on a softer guy.
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:53 PM   #166
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Who cares? I guess we need bodies to replace whoever is going to be shipped out.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:02 PM   #167
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Ryan Rishaug ‏@TSNRyanRishaug 24s Clarification on free agent window, All teams received a memo from the NHL this afternoon stating No negotiation or verbal offers allowed.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:09 PM   #168
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I don't see the point in signing Raymond, other than maybe "warm body" and "tradeable at the deadline".
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:11 PM   #169
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Ryan Rishaug ‏@TSNRyanRishaug 24s Clarification on free agent window, All teams received a memo from the NHL this afternoon stating No negotiation or verbal offers allowed.

so i guess it's just wooing then? something like "hey mason raymond calgary has the stampede and is a pretty cool place."
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:14 PM   #170
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NHL Deputy Commish Bill Daly sent out a memo to the 30 clubs today reminding them they can't make offers to free agents, only interview them
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:15 PM   #171
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The only question that Horak is the long-term answer to is: Who's a warm body with a cheap contract we can move easily between Abbotsford and Calgary?
Horak at 21 81 NHL games

Raymond at 21 zero NHL games.

Kind of early to be making that judgement on Horak.

Out of the 2009 draft Horak is ranked 22 in number of NHL games played. There are 15 1st round picks from that year that have less than 81 NHL games.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:17 PM   #172
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so i guess it's just wooing then? something like "hey mason raymond calgary has the stampede and is a pretty cool place."
Mason is from Cochrane, and his favorite team growing up was the Calgary flames.
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Mason is from Cochrane, and his favorite team growing up was the Vancouver Canucks.
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Nashville or Phoenix seem like the two most likely teams to trade defensemen.

I think the two most common names for Phoenix is Morris and Klesla. Morris is too old, but Klesla could be had for pretty cheap. Maybe even Stone (Calgary Ties). And Phoenix could use a Winger, something we have plenty of.
Why not Zybnek Michalek? 6 foot 2, 210 pounds 30 years old and a right handed a shot. $4,000,000 for two more seasons. He had 2 assists in 36 games so he comes very very cheap. We could also pull some more picks or prospects out of them as well
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[TRADE] Flames acquire Dion Phaneuf from the Leafs

I could just see it.
As much as we all love to hate the guy, depending on what the return for him would be, that wouldn't be the worst thing ever...
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:37 PM   #176
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As much as we all love to hate the guy, depending on what the return for him would be, that wouldn't be the worst thing ever...
I thought we were talking about needing defensive help. I don't think Phaneuf qualifies.
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Mason is from Cochrane, and his favorite team growing up was the Calgary flames.
Pretty sure his wife is from Winnipeg too, so I'd assume he would want to come Calgary or Winnipeg.
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Pretty sure his wife is from Winnipeg too, so I'd assume he would want to come Calgary or Winnipeg.
His wife is from Winnipeg. I went to university with her here in Calgary.
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As much as we all love to hate the guy, depending on what the return for him would be, that wouldn't be the worst thing ever...
Flames acquire Dion Phaneuf and name him Captain
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Why not Zybnek Michalek? 6 foot 2, 210 pounds 30 years old and a right handed a shot. $4,000,000 for two more seasons. He had 2 assists in 36 games so he comes very very cheap. We could also pull some more picks or prospects out of them as well
I think Michalek actually makes too much myself. And with an Limited NTC, he's going to have to want to come to Calgary to be traded. Less the right handed shot, you've essentially got the same sort of player with Klesla (who goes into beast mode during the playoffs) for $1M less and no restricted movement. I think Rusty is a little meaner too and would be more of a physical presence on the blueline.

Stone right now is an RFA off his first contract. He might be signable in the $2M range and a steal. He's a right handed shot, he's a former Calgary Hitmen and from what I remember of him on the Hitmen, he was a pretty offensive defenceman. And also a little on the mean side.
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