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Old 02-23-2013, 08:41 AM   #161
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Feaster gets another offseason from me before I start to get into a critical evaluation mode. I liked the moves this offseason, and I think Hartley deserves some time even though the start has been poor. Kipper's injury combined with the shortened camp and season makes it pretty tough for me to give him the benefit of the doubt a while longer. To each their own, though.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:30 AM   #162
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You know exactly what your getting into as a GM, especially as the assistant to the previous GM. He knew the game plan, the team has gotten worse statistically each year behind him. The status of the team when D sutter, left, and you can't improve on that, instead it's been worse. I have to question the hockey knowledge here when he sacrifices grit and goaltending just to gain as much skill as he can, regardless of how on the edge these skill players play with. That's poor management IMO. It's even more intriguing with Burke available. Maybe you pull the trigger sooner than normal to get a guy like that.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:34 AM   #163
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Right back to the GM who failed to secure a capable backup.
The Flames goal tending has sucked but they haven't lost because of goal tending other than the ones that Kipper blew earlier in the year.

Joey Mac has been fine, team has sucked
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:04 AM   #164
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You know exactly what your getting into as a GM, especially as the assistant to the previous GM. He knew the game plan, the team has gotten worse statistically each year behind him. The status of the team when D sutter, left, and you can't improve on that, instead it's been worse. I have to question the hockey knowledge here when he sacrifices grit and goaltending just to gain as much skill as he can, regardless of how on the edge these skill players play with. That's poor management IMO. It's even more intriguing with Burke available. Maybe you pull the trigger sooner than normal to get a guy like that.

Feaster tried to get grit this summer. He offered Prust the same as Montreal did. Not hard to fathom that he lost out on his 2nd and 3rd options also. The mandate that the owners had was very flawed going in to this season. Make playoffs and don't trade Iggy. If they can't trade Iggy, then they can't trade Kipper or Tangs. They need grit so they can't trade Glencross or Gio. After those players there was nothing left on the roster that other teams would want.

This summer could be different. Even though the flames as a team look horrible, players like Bouw, Stajan and Stempniak now have trade value.

I can see both sides of the arguement on whether Feaster stays or goes. I think he needs more time and the mandate changed. On the other hand he accepted the challenge, spent a boat load of money , and looks to have failed on both mandates.

I have thought about Burke also. If the flames ownership did change the mandate, Burke could probably get more for some of the flames players at the deadline than Feaster could. Say what you will about Burke, but other than the Kessel debacle, the man wins trades. Kessel debacle will never happen again to him, he has learned through that mistake. That said i don't see Burke getting along with Ken King, nor do i believe the ownership would change their mandate.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:06 AM   #165
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You know exactly what your getting into as a GM, especially as the assistant to the previous GM. He knew the game plan, the team has gotten worse statistically each year behind him. The status of the team when D sutter, left, and you can't improve on that, instead it's been worse. I have to question the hockey knowledge here when he sacrifices grit and goaltending just to gain as much skill as he can, regardless of how on the edge these skill players play with. That's poor management IMO. It's even more intriguing with Burke available. Maybe you pull the trigger sooner than normal to get a guy like that.

Feaster tried to get grit this summer. He offered Prust the same as Montreal did. Not hard to phathom that he lost out on his 2nd and 3rd options also. The mandate that the owners had was very flawed going into this season. Make playoffs and don't trade Iggy. If they can't trade Iggy, then they can't trade Kipper or Tangs. They need grit so they can't trade Glencross or Gio. After those players there was nothing left on the roster that other teams would want.

This summer could be different. Even though the flames as a team look horrible, players like Bouw, Stajan and Stempniak now have trade value.

I can see both sides of the arguement on whether Feaster stays or goes. I think he needs more time and the mandate changed. On the other hand he accepted the challenge, spent a boat load of money , and looks to have failed on both mandates.

I have thought about Burke also. If the flames ownership did change the mandate, Burke could probably get more for some of the flames players at the deadline than Feaster could. Say what you will about Burke, but other than the Kessel debacle, the man wins trades. Kessel debacle will never happen again to him, he has learned through that mistake. That said i don't see Burke getting along with Ken King, nor do i believe the ownership would change their mandate.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:06 AM   #166
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at this point I think the Flames have a better chance at making the playoffs next year....
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:32 AM   #167
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Calgary Flames Playoff Chances

Beat Phoenix 5-4, playoff odds up 5.8 to 24.8%

Edmonton Oilers Playoff Chances

Did not play, playoff odds down 0.2 to 21.7%
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:36 AM   #168
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Calgary Flames Playoff Chances

Lost to Colorado 4-5, playoff odds down 6.3 to 15.3%
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:26 AM   #169
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15.3% is secret code for 0%. Stick a fork in us, we're done.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:41 AM   #170
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:01 PM   #171
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Can an emberassing PR mess effect % ?

If so, we have to be near 0% by now.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:08 PM   #172
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we're almost in the nengative zone!
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:09 PM   #173
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:13 PM   #174
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A month away from the trade deadline no less. Are you watching, Edwards?
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:18 PM   #175
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Those answers must be really well hidden, how long do you need to scower the same room?
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:50 PM   #176
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A month away from the trade deadline no less. Are you watching, Edwards?
He knows, don't kid yourself.

The issue is that Joe Public doesn't know. He looks at the standings and sees we're only a handful of points away and has been conditioned under the old point system to think making up that ground is no big deal.

Those in the pro-rebuild camp (like myself) should aggressively publicize this. Tell everyone. Send them the link to the website. Explain to those people who reply with "anything can happen" that yes, that's true, it's just that what they're hoping to happen (playoffs) will happen 16 times out of 100.

Edwards knows this, and therefore continues to sell a playoff push. Don't buy it, and don't let others buy it either.

Sounds cynical, but at least it's objective. I'm still a fan, and I still watch all the games, but I'm withholding my dollars for tickets/merch until the guys running things show me they have a clue.
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I'm withholding my dollars for tickets/merch until the guys running things show me they have a clue.
I see the problem as nobody really competent is going to want to come here. Elite coaches, desired UFA's, proven and consistent GM's. I don't see any of it coming here because why would they want to? I think we are going to have to hit rock bottom, start losing money before the ownership cleans house.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:21 PM   #178
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After 10 games, the Flames were 3-4-3 and 3 points off the playoff pace (12 points per 10 games).

After 20 games, the Flames are 8-8-4 and 4 points off the playoff pace.

5-4-1 (11 points in 10 games) is an improvement from the first 10 games, but still dropping back.

I'd say thats how this 10 game segment felt to me. Improvement, but still not good enough.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:26 PM   #179
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4 points out with 2 games in hand
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4 points out with 2 games in hand
You must be Murray Edwards. Thats the same message i've heard for years now. With 3 teams to pass - i hope you were laughing when you wrote this.
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