2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Ped

Dallas has 29 playoffs wins in the last 3 seasons. They fell short, but they absolutely were a contender.


By your logic, the only team to emulate would be the Panthers, and you can't have 32 Panthers.

32 panthers is exactly the number of panthers killed every time a goal is scored. You can hear their final cries during the goal announcement.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Ped

Dallas has 29 playoffs wins in the last 3 seasons. They fell short, but they absolutely were a contender.


By your logic, the only team to emulate would be the Panthers, and you can't have 32 Panthers.

You can emulate Florida Tampa Colorado before they went crazy you can emulate Toronto you can look the Devils.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Huska has the final say on roster construction regardless of what Conroy does. Conny tries to give him the tools and it's his job to execute.

And if you mean that Huska shouldn't have a say on who they acquire, why wouldn't they ask? Players fit into certain systems and it's the coach who should have an idea of a player would fit into his system.

I think they should have an opinion but not a final opinion. Playing a 4th line of grinders who get filled nightly is his idea of a 4th line.

I like Huska and hope he lasts.

And no I don’t mean small skilled 4th line. I think we need more size with speed and ability to forecheck and play along the walls.

[JusAFlamer]

Really hope that they delay signing Huska at least a while.

I am not very optimistic that the scoring will increase (bottom of league most of year),
or that the games will be entertaining (playing not to lose as opposed to playing to win)

trying to give benefit of doubt that it was due to personnel available on ice, but every players offence was smothered here last year. AND made for some very forgettable hockey.

There is a reason why the goaltending was talked about so much. what else was there really to talk about?

[Red Potato Standing By]

So don’t for conference final appearances, aim lower is what you are saying( only one of the teams you mentioned have done better then Dallas.

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

As always, Craig a likeable guy.

Few things I took away.

- When he said "I don't think we're going to draft top-5, our guys don't believe that we'll be there" (paraphrasing) - he's speaking about the players, not the management. He's talking to the on-ice culture - so nothing shocking there. Players will never go out to lose, ever.

- He owned, and pushed back on a Pinder a bit, and owned it again that the Flames screwed up with Bennett and that it's something they have to learn from and make sure it doesn't happen again.

I'd love to see Craig talk more pointedly on the skill deficit at the top-end of the roster, and what's a realistic way to resolve that. Would love to hear a bit more talk about building a winner, not just about getting into the playoffs...just if for no other reason than to hear something different from Flames management.

...also, I hate any reference to Dallas. Dallas is not the team to look at. Look at Florida, look at Edmonton. They are the class of the NHL, not Dallas. If in referencing Dallas, the idea is that "Yes, we do need to draft good regardless of where the pick is"...well, that's just common sense, but in no way should the Flames look at Dallas as any sort of model to mimic.

Just a general happy pre-draft Flames GM interview. Definitely see that Conroy is a "Player's GM" in almost every moment of the interview.

Why would anyone look at Edmonton? It is literally impossible to duplicate that crap show. The league changed the draft rules due to them, so it is never happening again where a team is so inept that they fluke their way to being gifted two of the best offensive players ever.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I'd love to see Craig talk more pointedly on the skill deficit at the top-end of the roster, and what's a realistic way to resolve that. Would love to hear a bit more talk about building a winner, not just about getting into the playoffs...just if for no other reason than to hear something different from Flames management.

I imagine the answer would be drafting well, giving young guys opportunities to show it, and looking for opportunities to acqure elite talent in trades and UFA.


Then trying to make up for any deficits through committee and hard work, as they've often preached.

They'll probably leave no stone unturned, assuming we dont bottom out.


I mean what else is there really.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by traptor

I imagine the answer would be drafting well, giving young guys opportunities to show it, and looking for opportunities to acqure elite talent in trades and UFA.


Then trying to make up for any deficits through committee and hard work, as they've often preached.

They'll probably leave no stone unturned, assuming we dont bottom out.


I mean what else is there really.

Yeah, I’d just genuinely like to hear Connie talk about it. Wouldn’t expect anything shocking, but he’s the architect here. Love his interviews.

Conroy saying that you outright have to make space for young players (which they didn’t for Bennett) is refreshing to hear, because that is a significant change for the Flames.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You can emulate Florida Tampa Colorado before they went crazy you can emulate Toronto you can look the Devils.

Toronto? Really?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Ped

Toronto? Really?

As flawed as they are and some of that is luck they got 3 of the core players from top 5 picks.

I’m just speaking on getting top line talent here. Dallas doesn’t have it outside of Rantanen up front just recently.

[Ped]

But the objective as per you is playoff success. Toronto has none. Dallas has some.

[Ped]

Andy Strickland says Troy Terry is available in Anaheim.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Ped

But the objective as per you is playoff success. Toronto has none. Dallas has some.

But at the end of the day they both have no cups.

You hope to get lucky as well.

When Conroy says he wants a cup to come calgary but Dallas picks late they have no cups.

IMO

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Ped

Andy Strickland says Troy Terry is available in Anaheim.

I don't know what to make of Troy Terry. I know he's been a decent scorer for the rebuilding Ducks but that's about it.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

But at the end of the day they both have no cups.

You hope to get lucky as well.

When Conroy says he wants a cup to come calgary but Dallas picks late they have no cups.

IMO

I'm being pedantic but uhh, the Stars have a Cup. Not of this era. But all you can ask for is a team that makes consistent runs to the final 4 during their build cycle.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm being pedantic but uhh, the Stars have a Cup. Not of this era. But all you can ask for is a team that makes consistent runs to the final 4 during their build cycle.

Do you watch basketball ? I’ve said it before and it’s not all apples to apples but trying to do what OKC did. Trade vets fit a boatload of picks get back some emerging players(Shai) that can turn into stars and you are on your way. Now hockey requires more depth but that’s why you get those picks. Full your pipeline and use them as trade chips.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I'd love to see Craig talk more pointedly on the skill deficit at the top-end of the roster, and what's a realistic way to resolve that. Would love to hear a bit more talk about building a winner, not just about getting into the playoffs...just if for no other reason than to hear something different from Flames management.

You mean like the Hanlon announcement where they literally talked about bringing the Stanley Cup back to Calgary?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Do you watch basketball ? I’ve said it before and it’s not all apples to apples but trying to do what OKC did. Trade vets fit a boatload of picks get back some emerging players(Shai) that can turn into stars and you are on your way. Now hockey requires more depth but that’s why you get those picks. Full your pipeline and use them as trade chips.

Pick trading isn't anywhere close to apples and oranges comparing the 2 leagues, it apples to canoes. You can't do that in the NHL. Never has been like that and never will.

I'm all for drafting and developing talent, getting a Chicago dynasty era churn happening where you have a three year buffer of prospects rolling up though. That's when you can shuffle off your Byfuglins and Sharps.

But that's not going to stop them from making trades to build up the kind of roster you need to make that happen.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Pick trading isn't anywhere close to apples and oranges comparing the 2 leagues, it apples to canoes. You can't do that in the NHL. Never has been like that and never will.

I'm all for drafting and developing talent, getting a Chicago dynasty era churn happening where you have a three year buffer of prospects rolling up though. That's when you can shuffle off your Byfuglins and Sharps.

But that's not going to stop them from making trades to build up the kind of roster you need to make that happen.

They got their 2 stars up front after they had drafted the depth pieces and backend.

So what’s stopping the Flames from bottoming out ?

But yes we can load up on more picks. We missed the boat in Chucky but we can still accumulate 1st rounders and pieces with Coleman and Andersson. You can replace them internally.

Again you don’t have to use the picks to draft players. You can package them to get better players. You don’t know when the next Eichel or Rantanen pop up. Having an extra first to push you r offer over the top.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Ped

Dallas has 29 playoffs wins in the last 3 seasons. They fell short, but they absolutely were a contender.


By your logic, the only team to emulate would be the Panthers, and you can't have 32 Panthers.

They mean intentionally tank for half a decade.