2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by traptor

I wish I could love it, but I just can't see the road to contention with what he's laid out. Only time will tell, hope i'm wrong.

It does feel like they will make the right decision with Rasmus, which would be huge.

The UFA talk worries me a bit but it's good news that they're not going to middling targets. I wonder what they consider the big game targets. I hope that doesn't constitute Ehlers and Boeser types.

Bringing up Dallas again who haven't won anything. If your goal is to bring the cup back here Dallas isn't the model.

But in the same interview he brings up getting a top 5 pick or tradibg into the top 5 makes it seem like he understands you need high draft picks to get stars. Hopefully that shuts up the few who moan about it all the time its brought up.

Neither Ehlers or Boeser are difference makers. He said star players.

Glad he said we don't want bodies for the sake of bodies. That is Rossi and Bourque.

Nashville didn't plan on picking 5th overall. Just like last season went right things can go south easoly.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

While I would like us to do better points wise next year, part of me thinks that retooling's/rebuild (whatever this is) seldom see a upward trend year over year.
Most teams see a "saw blade" for points totals in the 3-5 years they are trying to retool, think last year might have been a year where a lot of things went perfect and might be hard to repeat next year.
Guess we'll see but my expectations are tempered, we've all seen teams add players that make them look better on paper and then it just doesn't work for whatever reasons.

It's possible for sure. If you set the over under on points for this team next year at 96 I'd take the under. Finishing in that 85 to 95 point range, seems more likely than in that 97 to 105 point range.

Conroy says he doesn't see them picking bottom 5, but TBH I think it's more that they are very unlikely to get a top 3 pick.

Finishing bottom 3 in the league is tough in the modern era, on average you need to finish about .425 or lower to finish bottom 3, which is sub 70 point season.

In order to finish bottom 3 you really need to intentionally be bad and really go scorched earth on a re-build.

But I do think that they could legitimately finish anywhere from 29th OV to 14th OV - that's just how much parity there is in the NHL, and I think with a rising cap we see even more teams in that range trying to add and take a step next year.

Look at Boston - on Feb 1st they were 16th in the NHL, they ended the season 28th OV.

Will be interesting to see what happens next year but I wouldn't write off a scenario where they do end up picking top 10 but not top 3.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I get the feeling the move may be to move back in this draft.

If most teams are trying to move up, you may get an overpay and add solid draft capital in a draft that looks to get pretty scattered after the first 14 picks.

You could also try to pry out picks in 26 as well.

More picks to try and pry a young star.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It's possible for sure. If you set the over under on points for this team next year at 96 I'd take the under. Finishing in that 85 to 95 point range, seems more likely than in that 97 to 105 point range.

Conroy says he doesn't see them picking bottom 5, but TBH I think it's more that they are very unlikely to get a top 3 pick.

Finishing bottom 3 in the league is tough in the modern era, on average you need to finish about .425 or lower to finish bottom 3, which is sub 70 point season.

In order to finish bottom 3 you really need to intentionally be bad and really go scorched earth on a re-build.

But I do think that they could legitimately finish anywhere from 29th OV to 14th OV - that's just how much parity there is in the NHL, and I think with a rising cap we see even more teams in that range trying to add and take a step next year.

Look at Boston - on Feb 1st they were 16th in the NHL, they ended the season 28th OV.

Will be interesting to see what happens next year but I wouldn't write out a scenario where they do end up picking top 10 but not top 3.

Boston signed Lindhom, Zadorov and Swayman to big long term deals to compete will be picking 7th. Same goes for Nashville big UFA moves picking 5th.

Things can swing easily.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Boston signed Lindhom, Zadorov and Swayman to big long term deals to compete will be picking 7th. Same goes for Nashville big UFA moves picking 5th.

Things can swing easily.

They can and do happen, but I don't think the odds favour a bottom 5 finish, and I wouldn't be banking on it.

Realistically they probably have a 75%+ chance of being 16th-26th place team.

It's not like they're cleaning house to increase the odds of bottoming out.

Which begs the question, what then?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by traptor

They can and do happen, but I don't think the odds favour a bottom 5 finish, and I wouldn't be banking on it.

Realistically they probably have a 75%+ chance of being 16th-26th place team.

It's not like they're cleaning house to increase the odds of bottoming out.

Which begs the question, what then?

Andersson is the only player they can easily clear house with which is part of the problem. I think a bottom ten finish is more likely than playoffs next year. I still don’t think the team is good as it stands.

[DJones]

Like listening to Conroy talk, feel like I actually understand his logic. Most GMs we've had don't have a coherent train of thought.

The Honzek talk is nice to see. Him developing would be huge.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Royle9

If you think Craig is going to play his hand and mention trading anyone at all then you're in for a rough interview.

Remember, its a business and you have to keep your cards close to your chest at all times.
If you're wanting to sell high, you're going to make it appear like trading him will be the hardest thing you've ever had to do

Which Conroy struggles to do this.

Also, knowing Andersson's salary demands will be useful when discussing trade options with other teams, as they will most likely want to re-sign him and would want to know if they're in the ballpark with what they'd be willing to offer him. They'll likely get to have direct discussions with Andersson before any trade happens but it would be useless to start talks with Conroy if they aren't going to be close to his ask.

[Vinny01]

Serivali was just on 960 and he reiterated the point that Conroy is completely open for business at the draft and he might move up, move back, or would move the picks for young NHL talent. He made it sound like Conroy has been Treliving levels of busy on the phone with how much he is calling around.

I am so ready for this summer. The Flames could do nothing and I will be happy or they could make some big deals which if anything will be exciting

[Reggie Dunlop]

Hopefully Conroy has his phone turned on at the draft.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Serivali was just on 960 and he reiterated the point that Conroy is completely open for business at the draft and he might move up, move back, or would move the picks for young NHL talent. He made it sound like Conroy has been Treliving levels of busy on the phone with how much he is calling around.

I am so ready for this summer. The Flames could do nothing and I will be happy or they could make some big deals which if anything will be exciting

Someone posted that this was the opposite of what they heard. Craig has mentioned it as well how hard it is to get picks especially 1st rounders. I can't see him trading 1sts like Treliving unless its a top young player.

I can see us trading back. Let the scouts cook.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by DJones

Like listening to Conroy talk, feel like I actually understand his logic. Most GMs we've had don't have a coherent train of thought.

The Honzek talk is nice to see. Him developing would be huge.

Felt like he was pumping those Honzek tires to add the kid in a trade. But don’t pump them too much cause you just know they’ll explode.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Someone posted that this was the opposite of what they heard. Craig has mentioned it as well how hard it is to get picks especially 1st rounders. I can't see him trading 1sts like Treliving unless its a top young player.

I can see us trading back. Let the scouts cook.

Frank took a little shot at that report which I believe Cam Robinson on X said he heard the opposite. I agree unless the player is a top young cost controlled asset Conroy is not trading the picks for players.

[ComixZone]

As always, Craig a likeable guy.

Few things I took away.

- When he said "I don't think we're going to draft top-5, our guys don't believe that we'll be there" (paraphrasing) - he's speaking about the players, not the management. He's talking to the on-ice culture - so nothing shocking there. Players will never go out to lose, ever.

- He owned, and pushed back on a Pinder a bit, and owned it again that the Flames screwed up with Bennett and that it's something they have to learn from and make sure it doesn't happen again.

I'd love to see Craig talk more pointedly on the skill deficit at the top-end of the roster, and what's a realistic way to resolve that. Would love to hear a bit more talk about building a winner, not just about getting into the playoffs...just if for no other reason than to hear something different from Flames management.

...also, I hate any reference to Dallas. Dallas is not the team to look at. Look at Florida, look at Edmonton. They are the class of the NHL, not Dallas. If in referencing Dallas, the idea is that "Yes, we do need to draft good regardless of where the pick is"...well, that's just common sense, but in no way should the Flames look at Dallas as any sort of model to mimic.

Just a general happy pre-draft Flames GM interview. Definitely see that Conroy is a "Player's GM" in almost every moment of the interview.

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

As always, Craig a likeable guy.

Few things I took away.

- When he said "I don't think we're going to draft top-5, our guys don't believe that we'll be there" (paraphrasing) - he's speaking about the players, not the management. He's talking to the on-ice culture - so nothing shocking there. Players will never go out to lose, ever.

- He owned, and pushed back on a Pinder a bit, and owned it again that the Flames screwed up with Bennett and that it's something they have to learn from and make sure it doesn't happen again.

I'd love to see Craig talk more pointedly on the skill deficit at the top-end of the roster, and what's a realistic way to resolve that.

...also, I hate any reference to Dallas. Dallas is not the team to look at. Look at Florida, look at Edmonton. They are the class of the NHL, not Dallas. If in referencing Dallas, the idea is that "Yes, we do need to draft good regardless of where the pick is"...well, that's just common sense, but in no way should the Flames look at Dallas as any sort of model to mimic.

You watch your mouth.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

You watch your mouth.

Yeah, it hurts and is vomit inducing.

I hope the back-to-back Finals losses take the physical toll on the Oilers and they fade away for a good few years(/forever)

[Paulie Walnuts]

Interesting piece about Huska is his coach and they will build this thing together. We have had to many instances with coach and gm not getting along. Just hope Huska doesn’t get to much of a say in roster construction because his 4th line idea is outdated.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Bringing up Dallas again who haven't won anything. If your goal is to bring the cup back here Dallas isn't the model.

Dallas has 29 playoffs wins in the last 3 seasons. They fell short, but they absolutely were a contender.


By your logic, the only team to emulate would be the Panthers, and you can't have 32 Panthers.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Interesting piece about Huska is his coach and they will build this thing together. We have had to many instances with coach and gm not getting along. Just hope Huska doesn’t get to much of a say in roster construction because his 4th line idea is outdated.

Huska has the final say on roster construction regardless of what Conroy does. Conny tries to give him the tools and it's his job to execute.

And if you mean that Huska shouldn't have a say on who they acquire, why wouldn't they ask? Players fit into certain systems and it's the coach who should have an idea of a player would fit into his system.

[Badgers Nose]

Nvm