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Pagal4321 · 12-15-2008, 10:17 PM

Yea, the team I was playing against seems to be behind me by 2.20 points (if StatTracker is accurate) and an INT is -2 and an incompletion is -0.25.

Sorry? But I could just kiss that fat Andy Reid for benching his starters.

Flickered Flame · 12-15-2008, 10:33 PM

The Browns are sure a mess. Any chance they clean house right from top to bottom?

Pagal4321 · 12-15-2008, 10:50 PM

Yes. I think Phil Savage and Romeo Crennell are all but toast.

Brady Quinn to get the ball to start next year. Edwards and Winslow Jr. to catch the balls. And pretty much everyone else will be over-hauled(except for Cribbs and Rogers, they are having big years).

But I'm not a fan of the Browns so I'm not so sure, this is just my guess.

GirlySports · 12-16-2008, 08:04 AM

Ok complete the following.

Should the following coaches for non-playoff teams be fired yes or no.

Buffalo - Jauron:
Cincinatti - Lewis:
Cleveland - Crenell:
Jacksonville - Del Rio:
Houston - Kubiak:
KC - Edwards:
SD - Turner:
Washington - Zorn:
Green Bay - McCarthy:
Detroit: Marinelli
New Orleans - Payton:

Interim coaches:
Oakland
St. Louis
San Fran

Coach already replaced:
Seattle

Trojan97 · 12-16-2008, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Ok complete the following.

Should the following coaches for non-playoff teams be fired yes or no.

Buffalo - Jauron: No
Cincinatti - Lewis: Yep
Cleveland - Crenell: Yep
Jacksonville - Del Rio: No
Houston - Kubiak: No (as a Texans fan I can say with 99.9% certainty that Kubes will be back)
KC - Edwards: No
SD - Turner: Yep
Washington - Zorn: No
Green Bay - McCarthy: No
Detroit: Marinelli: No (just for the sake of a little continuity for that franchise)
New Orleans - Payton: No

Interim coaches:
Oakland- Who cares
St. Louis- Haslett has done a pretty good job IMO
San Fran- Singletary should stay on

Coach already replaced:
Seattle

Answers in bold above

mykalberta · 12-16-2008, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Ok complete the following.

Should the following coaches for non-playoff teams be fired yes or no.

Buffalo - Jauron:
Cincinatti - Lewis:
Cleveland - Crenell:
Jacksonville - Del Rio:
Houston - Kubiak:
KC - Edwards:
SD - Turner:
Washington - Zorn:
Green Bay - McCarthy:
Detroit: Marinelli
New Orleans - Payton:

Interim coaches:
Oakland
St. Louis
San Fran

Coach already replaced:
Seattle

Fired: Jauron, Leiws, Cronnel, Marinelli
Might Get Fired: Turner, Edwards
Wont Get Fired: Zorn, Del Rio, McCarthy, Payton

I would also add Manginious to the fired list if the Jets dont make the playoffs.

burn_baby_burn · 12-16-2008, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PIMking

Thank god! Now they need to get Cowherd in as GM/coach and get rid of the best 4-12 coach money can buy and Kc will be back on the road.

Hopefully they draft either stafford or Bradford in the draft. I like thigpen but hes not a franchise qb.

Its hard not to like Thigpin. Chain Gailey is a genius for developing an offense that suited the weak offensive line and the young, inexperienced, third string QB. I have to wonder, if Croyle was behind center and playing as well as Thigpin, would there be any debate on who the starting QB should be next season?

The biggest weakness on this team by a country mile is the defensive line. They are young and inexperienced as well, yet can the Chiefs blame it on that and injury? Or will they just admit that they do not have talented enough personal playing on the line. Dorsey has been a flop so far, although I am told that it takes time for defensive lineman to develop. Lets hope thats true.

Flickered Flame · 12-16-2008, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Ok complete the following.

Should the following coaches for non-playoff teams be fired yes or no.

Buffalo - Jauron: Fired
Cincinatti - Lewis: Fired
Cleveland - Crenell: Fired
Jacksonville - Del Rio: Fired
Houston - Kubiak: Stays
KC - Edwards: Fired
SD - Turner: Stays
Washington - Zorn: Stays
Green Bay - McCarthy: Stays
Detroit: Marinelli: Fired
New Orleans - Payton: Stays

Interim coaches:
Oakland-New coach will be hired
St. Louis-Haslett will stay
San Fran-Singletary will stay

Coach already replaced:
Seattle

My answers also in bold.

Bobblehead · 12-16-2008, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Ok complete the following.

Should the following coaches for non-playoff teams be fired yes or no.

Buffalo - Jauron: Fired
Cincinatti - Lewis: Fired
Cleveland - Crenell: Fired
Jacksonville - Del Rio: Hot Seat
Houston - Kubiak: Safe
KC - Edwards: Hot Seat
SD - Turner: Fired
Washington - Zorn: Hot Seat
Green Bay - McCarthy: Safe
Detroit: Marinelli Fired
New Orleans - Payton: Safe

I think the Hot Seat guys will be kept around, but any issues that appear to carry over, and they will be gone.

moon · 12-16-2008, 10:08 AM

This is who should be fired. As for who will, who can tell with the nut job owners that some of these teams have.

Buffalo - Jauron: Stay
Cincinatti - Lewis: fired
Cleveland - Crenell: Fired
Jacksonville - Del Rio: Stay
Houston - Kubiak: Stay
KC - Edwards: Fired
SD - Turner: Fired
Washington - Zorn: Stay
Green Bay - McCarthy: Stay
Detroit: Marinelli: Fired
New Orleans - Payton: Stay

I think for the most part that is what will happen, but with Snyder as owner Zorn could be gone and Edwards seems to have about 9 dozen lives so I could see him hanging on.

St. Louis and Oakland should get new coaches, Oakland especially.

San Francisco should keep Singletary as he has done an alright job and then perhaps we can stop the whinning about black coaches in the NFL for a day or two.

GirlySports · 12-16-2008, 10:49 AM

Small sampling so far, I'm a bit intrigued that you all would fire Crenell and keep Payton.

Crenell had a 10-6 record last year and now has one bad season.
Payton had a 10-6 record two years ago and has now had two bad seasons with a much more talented team.

burn_baby_burn · 12-16-2008, 10:56 AM

To comment on Herm Edwards. It appears that his fate will be left in the hands of who ever is hired as General Manager for the Chiefs. It looks like Chiefs owner Clark Hunt likes the direction that Herm is going in by rebuilding with youth. He has also let it be know that while he likes Herm, he thinks it should be up to the GM to select his own head coach.

The wet dream in KC is Bill Cowher to be head coach or even GM. I wonder what kind of GM Marty Schotenhiemer would be?

Pagal4321 · 12-16-2008, 10:57 AM

Buffalo - Jauron: after last week, fired.
Cincinatti - Lewis: can't keep him around forever, fired.
Cleveland - Crenell: wholesale changes coming in CLE, fired.
Jacksonville - Del Rio: safe, although their record is a head-scratcher.
Houston - Kubiak: safe, done a great job with this team.
KC - Edwards: safe, I think he's done alright with what he's got, depends on new GM.
SD - Turner: fired. are you kidding me, this team went from SB favorite to this?
Washington - Zorn: safe. Snyder needs to keep some consistancy for more than a year.
Green Bay - McCarthy: safe. All the heat is on the GM for the Pack.
Detroit: Marinelli: Ya, 0-14 and you think you can keep your job? FIRED.
New Orleans - Payton: safe. Injuries decimated this team.

Interim coaches:
Oakland Hire someone competant, and give them full control.
St. Louis Haslett's not the man for the job, find someone who is.
San Fran Keep Singletary, he's done a great job with getting these guys to actually PLAY.

Coach already replaced:
Seattle I think this team will be over-rated for years to come, even with Mora Jr.

burn_baby_burn · 12-16-2008, 11:00 AM

Should the following coaches for non-playoff teams be fired yes or no.

Buffalo - Jauron: Yes
Cincinatti - Lewis: Yes
Cleveland - Crenell: Yes
Jacksonville - Del Rio: No
Houston - Kubiak: No
KC - Edwards: Maybe
SD - Turner: Yes
Washington - Zorn: No
Green Bay - McCarthy: No
Detroit: Marinelli: Yes (does it really matter?)
New Orleans - Payton: No

Interim coaches:
Oakland: Replaced
St. Louis: Replaced
San Fran: Not sure

Bobblehead · 12-16-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Small sampling so far, I'm a bit intrigued that you all would fire Crenell and keep Payton.

Crenell had a 10-6 record last year and now has one bad season.
Payton had a 10-6 record two years ago and has now had two bad seasons with a much more talented team.

Crenell took over a bad team, and in his 4th season has appeared to have sunk back to the mediocrity of his early years. The Browns aren't doing anything well, and there appears to be little hope going forward. You may be tempted to blame the QB injuries, but Derek Anderson wasn't playing well before he got hurt, so it isn't like a team playing well has had key players hurt. A team that wasn't playing well had injuries that may have made it worse, but if they hadn't gotten hurt I don't think they are a playoff team as they currently stand.

Payton took over a team that sucked, and in his first year he took them to the playoffs. Since then their offense has scared teams, but they have had more than a few defensive issues. And they have also had injury issues, but the difference is the players who were injured seem to have a bigger impact. The players who missed time seem to make plays when they are healthy.

And to top it off, the Browns seem to have had dysfunction all the time Crenell has been there, from all the Winslow drama, to the Brady Quinn saga, it just seems like a soap opera. By comparison the Saints seem to play with an air of optimism. Even when things aren't going well, it seems like they have a shot in any game.

So I think it really just comes down to the attitude around both franchises. It just seems like the Browns will be looking for a new Coach (and GM), while the Saints will wait to see what happens in a relatively healthy season before they make changes.

Bobblehead · 12-16-2008, 11:48 AM

And the rumours out of SF are that Singletary still isn't a lock (but should be).

OILFAN #81 · 12-16-2008, 04:44 PM

AFC/NFC Pro Bowl roster announced:

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation...owl%20analysis

How many players from your team made it?

For me, 4 Colts are in the Pro Bowl. Peyton Manning is starting (9th pro bowl appearance), Dwight Freeney is a starter, Reggie Wayne is a reserve and Robert Mathis is a reserve.

Displaced Flames fan · 12-16-2008, 05:38 PM

.

Should the following coaches for non-playoff teams be fired yes or no.

Buffalo - Jauron:-No
Cincinatti - Lewis:-Yes
Cleveland - Crenell:-Yes
Jacksonville - Del Rio: -No
Houston - Kubiak:-No
KC - Edwards:-Doesn't matter. I'd keep him, but a new GM is going to want his own guy.
SD - Turner: Of course
Washington - Zorn:-NO
Green Bay - McCarthy:NO
Detroit: Marinelli-Absolutely
New Orleans - Payton:-NO

Interim coaches:
Oakland
St. Louis
San Fran

Coach already replaced:
Seattle[/quote]

Displaced Flames fan · 12-16-2008, 05:41 PM

2 pro-bowlers

Cutler and Marshall.

Yes, Ryan Clady absolutely should've made it.

Pagal4321 · 12-16-2008, 05:50 PM

Peterson, Hutchinson, Allen, Winfield, P. Williams and K. Williams.

That's quite the list. Would have been great if Greenway made it, he has been a stud ever since EJ Henderson went down. I think Briggs made it in based on name recognition.

But I got no qualms since I hate this game. Makes no sense.