2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah the only justification is "Kadri already told us he wouldn't waive under any circumstances"

We already know that to be true, as even Royle himself shared several times that Kadri had no interest in leaving and that being in Canada and having his family around him was essential.

He earned a NMC and didn’t/doesn’t want to leave. Why put energy into a deal you’re never going to make?

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

We already know that to be true, as even Royle himself shared several times that Kadri had no interest in leaving and that being in Canada and having his family around him was essential.

He earned a NMC and didn’t/doesn’t want to leave. Why put energy into a deal you’re never going to make?

To appease the saltiest of posters on CalgaryPuck of course

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I'd have jumped at Ritchie and the 2026 1st - anything else would been crazy and a gross overpayment.

A bit dramatic with the firable offence I'd say.

It's possible the Flames are just not that high on Ritchie. They reached a bit for Honzak in that same draft.

Sure Kadri is not young, but he's still producing. It's not unreasonable to think Ritchie, that late 26 first, and third eventually yields nothing. When teams are willing to trade a recently drafted player now...it's usually a decent indicator that they're not as high on the player now vs. When the player was drafted.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

We already know that to be true, as even Royle himself shared several times that Kadri had no interest in leaving and that being in Canada and having his family around him was essential.

He earned a NMC and didn’t/doesn’t want to leave. Why put energy into a deal you’re never going to make?

Kadri has a M-NTC starting next year, where he can block 13 teams. 18 teams that the Flames can trade him without permission. If the return was that good, why not approach him and say the team is going in a different direction and if you want more control on where you go, Colorado is after you now and he might look at it as that is a top 5 choice. Maybe top 3 including Calgary,

He could end up on his 18th choice next year. If I'm Kadri, 1 more year vs being proactive and making the move now to a contender. I'm moving, especially if I think I'm 100% moving before the contract expires.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

We already know that to be true, as even Royle himself shared several times that Kadri had no interest in leaving and that being in Canada and having his family around him was essential.

He earned a NMC and didn’t/doesn’t want to leave. Why put energy into a deal you’re never going to make?

I just don't like the concept of not even bringing it forward to Kadri.

Everyone involved here is an adult...does it really hurt things if Conroy goes to Kadri and says "Colorado really wants you back, is that something you'd have interest in?"

If Kadri says no, then it's case closed, but that discussion should at least be had with the player, even if he previously said he didn't want to move.

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Kadri has a M-NTC starting next year, where he can block 13 teams. 18 teams that the Flames can trade him without permission. If the return was that good, why not approach him and say the team is going in a different direction and if you want more control on where you go, Colorado is after you now and he might look at it as that is a top 5 choice. Maybe top 3 including Calgary,

He could end up on his 18th choice next year. If I'm Kadri, 1 more year vs being proactive and making the move now to a contender. I'm moving, especially if I think I'm 100% moving before the contract expires.

See I wouldn't even necessarily frame it this way as that's how you sour the relationship if the player feels like it's a threat.

But you need to at least approach the player and say "This offer is on the table from Colorado, if you're interested we will negotiate further, if not then we will just close the door right now".

It's the "Flames have no interest in moving Kadri" part that is frustrating because outside of Wolf, and Parekh there should be no untouchables on this team.

[Royle9]

Guys, there's a LOT to be said about honoring a players wishes.
When Kadri came to Calgary he made it very clear he wanted to be here for the entire duration. He then moved out his entire family including parents to be here full time and to be able to spend his summers here as well.

When you talk to a player like that throughout the season, and explain to him your plan to re-tool not rebuild and ask where his head is at in all of this and he says "I want to win here and do whatever it takes" you have to honor it.

Why on earth would Craig even explore trading a guy who wants to be a Flame, who's given us more than we could ask these last few seasons and wants to win. That's the type of guy you want in the locker room. Craig wants people who want to be Flames, he's not going to trade that and disrespect the players wishes who has control as well, he would look like the stupidest GM in the NHL and nobody would come here.

Sometimes you have to look passed the shiny new toys via trade offer and just respect what you have and what you want to build while keeping your word and integrity.

[FanSince'01]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Guys, there's a LOT to be said about honoring a players wishes.
When Kadri came to Calgary he made it very clear he wanted to be here for the entire duration. He then moved out his entire family including parents to be here full time and to be able to spend his summers here as well.

When you talk to a player like that throughout the season, and explain to him your plan to re-tool not rebuild and ask where his head is at in all of this and he says "I want to win here and do whatever it takes" you have to honor it.

Why on earth would Craig even explore trading a guy who wants to be a Flame, who's given us more than we could ask these last few seasons and wants to win. That's the type of guy you want in the locker room. Craig wants people who want to be Flames, he's not going to trade that and disrespect the players wishes who has control as well, he would look like the stupidest GM in the NHL and nobody would come here.

Sometimes you have to looked passed the shiny new toys via trade offer and just respect what you have and what you want to build while keeping your word and integrity.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I do not see it this way. I think outside of Wolf and Coronato this teams best players are the veteran 6 who are all 29-36 years old and none of those guys can expect to get that much better and the youngest of the group in Andersson is likely getting traded.

Sure Coronato and Wolf give us hope and I assume Parekh is going to make an impact sooner than later but this team doesn’t have a ton of young guys who are going to take a massive leap. Maybe Zary if he can stay healthy. Does Sharangovich, or Farabee get back to the players they were the season before last or are they just overpaid middle 6 wingers?

There is not enough talent from the players that need to be better than lead me to think the Flames will be better this coming year vs last. If anything teams will not take them as lightly as they did last year in addition to the fact it is very difficult to repeat the effort they gave last year. A little less effort and teams being more prepared could easily put this team into the bottom 10 next year.

We will see what they do this summer because if they stay the course I suspect they will be worse and not better next year.

I don't see any of the Flames' key vets ready to fall off this year. The only one who looks like they are falling off is Backlund, and his role was already reduced last year.

I see Huberdeau continuing to improve and find his game. Weegar and Kadri aren't suddenly dropping off this year. Weegar looks like one of those d-men who will continue to get better in his 30s as he gets more experience and smarts.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Guys, there's a LOT to be said about honoring a players wishes.
When Kadri came to Calgary he made it very clear he wanted to be here for the entire duration. He then moved out his entire family including parents to be here full time and to be able to spend his summers here as well.

When you talk to a player like that throughout the season, and explain to him your plan to re-tool not rebuild and ask where his head is at in all of this and he says "I want to win here and do whatever it takes" you have to honor it.

Why on earth would Craig even explore trading a guy who wants to be a Flame, who's given us more than we could ask these last few seasons and wants to win. That's the type of guy you want in the locker room. Craig wants people who want to be Flames, he's not going to trade that and disrespect the players wishes who has control as well, he would look like the stupidest GM in the NHL and nobody would come here.

Sometimes you have to looked passed the shiny new toys via trade offer and just respect what you have and what you want to build while keeping your word and integrity.

Calgary isn't high on the list of places most players want to go, but I think one big positive in Calgary's favour is how the organization treats it's players and their families.

I'm firmly in the rebuild camp and would have loved to cash in an aging player to add valuable younger assets, but I think it's essential that the team maintains a respectful relationship with any current or former players, and one way to do that is to make sure we're not pestering players who have trade protection and have made their wishes clear.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Guys, there's a LOT to be said about honoring a players wishes.
When Kadri came to Calgary he made it very clear he wanted to be here for the entire duration. He then moved out his entire family including parents to be here full time and to be able to spend his summers here as well.

When you talk to a player like that throughout the season, and explain to him your plan to re-tool not rebuild and ask where his head is at in all of this and he says "I want to win here and do whatever it takes" you have to honor it.

Why on earth would Craig even explore trading a guy who wants to be a Flame, who's given us more than we could ask these last few seasons and wants to win. That's the type of guy you want in the locker room. Craig wants people who want to be Flames, he's not going to trade that and disrespect the players wishes who has control as well, he would look like the stupidest GM in the NHL and nobody would come here.

Sometimes you have to look passed the shiny new toys via trade offer and just respect what you have and what you want to build while keeping your word and integrity.

Because you have to do what’s best for the team. The player can easily sour and ask for a trade when the losing piles up.

I respect that Kadri has embraced the city and team but he came here being sold on winning not rebuilding.

I’m fine in Keeping him but they better not be selling him on them trying to accelerate the rebuild and make short sighted moves.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Guys, there's a LOT to be said about honoring a players wishes.
When Kadri came to Calgary he made it very clear he wanted to be here for the entire duration. He then moved out his entire family including parents to be here full time and to be able to spend his summers here as well.

When you talk to a player like that throughout the season, and explain to him your plan to re-tool not rebuild and ask where his head is at in all of this and he says "I want to win here and do whatever it takes" you have to honor it.

Why on earth would Craig even explore trading a guy who wants to be a Flame, who's given us more than we could ask these last few seasons and wants to win. That's the type of guy you want in the locker room. Craig wants people who want to be Flames, he's not going to trade that and disrespect the players wishes who has control as well, he would look like the stupidest GM in the NHL and nobody would come here.

Sometimes you have to look passed the shiny new toys via trade offer and just respect what you have and what you want to build while keeping your word and integrity.

If this is how were being ran, we're doomed to mediocrity. This is a professional sports team not a social club. If we're honoring the contract,then that's enough. If we're giving him an unwritten NTC to be nice, then I dont know what to say. That's highly unprofessional and this isn't a serious organization.



Also Kadri had some pretty terrible games his first couple seasons. A full "controller disconnect" shift in a Minnesota game comes to mind, because I paid to be there.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by traptor

If this is how were being ran, we're doomed to mediocrity. This is a professional sports team not a social club. If we're honoring the contract,then that's enough. If we're giving him an unwritten NTC to be nice, then I dont know what to say. That's highly unprofessional and this isn't a serious organization.

Its ok to be this wrong. Own your wrongness. Revel in it.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Because you have to do what’s best for the team. The player can easily sour and ask for a trade when the losing piles up.

I respect that Kadri has embraced the city and team but he came here being sold on winning not rebuilding.

I’m fine in Keeping him but they better not be selling him on them trying to accelerate the rebuild and make short sighted moves.

Do you actually believe they are?

I’m so sick of players wanting to leave Calgary. Can we not just enjoy having guys here right now that love the city and want to be a part of it? Yet fans will toss these guys away the second they get the opportunity. By all accounts, Kadri is great in the room and his play and effort spoke volumes last season. You need guys like him to mentor your youth along.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Given the Flames weren't looking for a futures deal we are exploring what an alternative deal would have looked like that would have motivated Calgary to take it over the speculated offer.

But it does seem like they weighed both options.

I don’t think Carolina could match what Florida sent.

Necas and Jarvis is still a futures type and you likely don’t get the D.

Any established players coming back would be pointless for Carolina since they wanted to add Chucky to the core. Florida had ridiculous depth

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Guys, there's a LOT to be said about honoring a players wishes.
When Kadri came to Calgary he made it very clear he wanted to be here for the entire duration. He then moved out his entire family including parents to be here full time and to be able to spend his summers here as well.

When you talk to a player like that throughout the season, and explain to him your plan to re-tool not rebuild and ask where his head is at in all of this and he says "I want to win here and do whatever it takes" you have to honor it.

Why on earth would Craig even explore trading a guy who wants to be a Flame, who's given us more than we could ask these last few seasons and wants to win. That's the type of guy you want in the locker room. Craig wants people who want to be Flames, he's not going to trade that and disrespect the players wishes who has control as well, he would look like the stupidest GM in the NHL and nobody would come here.

Sometimes you have to looked passed the shiny new toys via trade offer and just respect what you have and what you want to build while keeping your word and integrity.

Treliving signed the deal, not Conroy. They don't need to run him out of town if he says no, just ask.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The worst part of the offseason is team tank's neverending bitching about the team not being the worst in the league and not blowing it up. Over and over...

I don’t disagree at all but it would be much better if they fine tuned their plan. They complain about how you need to get elite players to be competitive and they want to trade all the vets, most of whom do not want to be traded and have the ability to prevent a trade completely or limit the Flames trading partners. A better approach would be to trade the good but not great young players that they do have control over

1) trade Coronato for picks. This instantly takes 30 goals out of the lineup.
2) trade Zary for picks. This takes a potential 50-60 point guy out of the lineup.
3) trade Pospisil for picks. Makes the team much easier to play against
4) trade Bahl for picks. Severely weakens the Flames defence.
5) trade Rasmus cause they can for picks
6) and finally the big one. Trade Wolf for picks, run Cooley and Vladar.

If we did that tear down plan we would almost certainly be competing for top 5 picks for the rest of the decade and we would get the much lusted after top 5 (or better) picks. This should be the way that team tank proposes to burn it to the ground. Instead they suggest trading Kadri (full NMC) who cannot be traded without his consent.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Treliving signed the deal, not Conroy. They don't need to run him out of town if he says no, just ask.

These conversations happen with teams in our position with players who want to stay. I think they would appreciate that more than watching players get traded away and stay in the dark. Doesn’t to tell him our direction and if that impacts him wanting to stay out go somewhere and win.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Guys, there's a LOT to be said about honoring a players wishes.
When Kadri came to Calgary he made it very clear he wanted to be here for the entire duration. He then moved out his entire family including parents to be here full time and to be able to spend his summers here as well.

When you talk to a player like that throughout the season, and explain to him your plan to re-tool not rebuild and ask where his head is at in all of this and he says "I want to win here and do whatever it takes" you have to honor it.

Why on earth would Craig even explore trading a guy who wants to be a Flame, who's given us more than we could ask these last few seasons and wants to win. That's the type of guy you want in the locker room. Craig wants people who want to be Flames, he's not going to trade that and disrespect the players wishes who has control as well, he would look like the stupidest GM in the NHL and nobody would come here.

Sometimes you have to look passed the shiny new toys via trade offer and just respect what you have and what you want to build while keeping your word and integrity.

Just waiting for my thanks to replenish so I can thank this post.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

These conversations happen with teams in our position with players who want to stay. I think they would appreciate that more than watching players get traded away and stay in the dark. Doesn’t to tell him our direction and if that impacts him wanting to stay out go somewhere and win.

He blocked a trade coming here from the Leafs, they traded him a few years later.

Would he be upset if the Flames fell down the standings and traded him next summer? If anything, approaching him now and giving him more control over where he goes is a classy move too.

[Rhett44]

Being so loyal to aging players is the exact reason we never win anything. Sometimes you have to do what is best for the team, not always be the nice guy.

If you get offered a boat load of futures for an aging asset, you do it. I can obviously understand if Kadri was on the Avs or Panthers or some contender that they keep him and his winning attitude at all costs. But we are far from being anywhere close to a contender. We should we building towards the future.