2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Toonage]

The ol' Treliving special. Right in it (allegedly) but can't close.

[Vinny01]

Tough to see what assets Vegas would have included to get Marner?

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m assuming draft picks from Vegas to Toronto to send to Carolina and a young player like Stamkoven ? Not sure what assets Carolina would need makes no sense for them to add.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I’m assuming draft picks from Vegas to Toronto to send to Carolina and a young player like Stamkoven ? Not sure what assets Carolina would need makes no sense for them to add.

The only way it makes sense is if the Leafs were adding big time to get Rantanen. Cowan is the only guy they have though but that is a huge price to go with Marner and still not as much as Carolina got from Dallas

Does Vegas have anything left to trade?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

The only way it makes sense is if the Leafs were adding big time to get Rantanen. Cowan is the only guy they have though but that is a huge price to go with Marner and still not as much as Carolina got from Dallas

Does Vegas have anything left to trade?

Vegas has nothing so it makes sense they couldn’t get the sssets.

Have to wonder if Brad trades for Laughton with the 1st.

Vegas goes and gets a 1st and prospect to send to Toronto for Marner. Toronto flips that 1st their 1st and prospects more picks for Rantanen. Still wonder if Carolina wanted a young roster player.

Think Marner ends up in Vegas anyways now. They have 10m cap space and already talking about AP missing next season.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Vegas has nothing so it makes sense they couldn’t get the sssets.

Have to wonder if Brad trades for Laughton with the 1st.

Vegas goes and gets a 1st and prospect to send to Toronto for Marner. Toronto flips that 1st their 1st and prospects more picks for Rantanen. Still wonder if Carolina wanted a young roster player.

Think Marner ends up in Vegas anyways now. They have 10m cap space and already talking about AP missing next season.

They need to address that rule, but if it hurts the Oilers I'm ok with it.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Safe to say Marner won’t be going to Carolina.

I disagree.
We often see UFAs sign with teams that expressed an interest in them in the past (Kadri or Brodie for example).

I think it will be either CAR in the East or LA, Utah, SJ in the West.

[Toonage]

It'll be Vegas. Its almost always Vegas (it seems).

[CliffFletcher]

Marner is rumoured to not want to go out West. Columbus could be a dark horse.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Huby is a PPG guy on a more skilled and offensively minded team. He now has a 200 foot game and can be trusted at all times in a hockey game. The cap has caught up to his egregious contract and he has somewhat grown into it. Everyone can see that except a few posters here.

And that's coming from the guy who led the angry pitch fork wielding mob that burned his effigy.

Yes, Huberdeau's current value for his contract wasn't the worst this past year (it's still below average).

But it's not really about what Huberdeau's doing now; it's that in four years, when the Flames are in the middle of their competition window, you're likely still paying $10.5m a season to a 36/37 year old winger putting up 30-40 points or less. Huberdeau's deal made sense when it was signed, because the team expected to be in their competitive window during his 30-35 year seasons and retooling when his production tailed off in the last couple years. It didn't work that way.

I really doubt Calgary would rock the boat by trading for Pettersen with the rumours around him and the current team's culture that includes Huberdeau, but for longer term cap management, and the potential that they could rebuild Pettersen's value, they'd have to at least look into it.

[Claes]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't think he fetches 4th OA. Trades for top 5 picks simply don't happen often and certainly not for a very good but not great player who's only got a year left on his current contract.

But the expectation is that he comes delivered with a long contract extension, which will increase his trade value I believe.

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[Ped]

Probably not to 4th OA though.

[Claes]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Under the right situation, Pettersson can rebound and become a #1 C again - not just a #1 C, but potentially one of the better ones in the league. I do think he has that ability.


With that being said, that's also a lot of risk to take. Flames may end up a lot worse off than before. Huberdeau is a leader, and actually has a better track record of production with more PPG seasons and a high overall 'best season'. Plus, since arriving in Calgary and having things go terribly wrong, he has always faced the media with professionalism and has always held himself accountable. Apparently, he is also beloved in the room. While he is definitely overpaid, he has 6 years left @10.5 million. He has reinvented himself as a complete player and a power-forward as well, and good defensively.



Contrast that to Pettersson. Questions about his long-term health, been 'pouty' with the media, has potentially been a divisive presence in the room, and has a new contract kicking in next season that pays him 8 x 11.6. He is 6 years younger, and if he rebounds, the Flames will have a #1 center. If he doesn't, the Flames will have the worst contract in the entire league.


It isn't the 'easy win' that it appears. Still feels a lot like a gamble to me, but I think I would grudgingly roll the dice here just due to Pettersson's age and position. Plus with Backlund, I think it would help him to get off on the right foot here in Calgary. Definitely a huge risk, however, and it isn't like Pettersson has this long track record of production that warrants that deal.

I agree with your analysis. But it's there any indication that Vancouver would be interested in such a swap?

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[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Claes

I agree with your analysis. But it's there any indication that Vancouver would be interested in such a swap?

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Nah, the Canucks could do better than Huberdeau if they just wanted to dump Pettersson

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Originally Posted by Claes

I agree with your analysis. But it's there any indication that Vancouver would be interested in such a swap?

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no

[Macho0978]

I think Pettersen for Rossi makes a ton of sense. Minnesota is on the verge of being an elite team. Yurov and Buium is some serious talent being added to an already good team. Pettersen is an upgrade on Rossi and Pettersen and Kaprizov gives you a chance at an elite line. Add Boldy to that line, that could be the best line in the league.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

No kidding. Clearly the Flames would have to add as the kid has two 20 goal seasons at the age of 23. That’s the type of production you hope from a kid drafted in the top 10 of an NHL draft.

I think it does get lost on folks just how difficult it it to draft a player who can be a 20 goal and 60 point player.

On one hand if you don't have any picks you can't ever draft somebody who hits that threshold or better. On the other having 6 picks in the first two rounds in a weaker draft class and all of them are after pick 15 you're lucky to find 2 players who play 200 games for your franchise. If you hit that fans still lament that you screwed the pooch in that draft if you didn't get any elite talent if those guys end up as a 25 goal winger and a 4th defenseman.

I think it's a major reason why teams have a hard time getting out of this middle tier. If you do draft well, you stay there, but can't get that elite talent to break out. If you draft poorly...well you fall back to where you have a chance to draft in the top 10.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I think it does get lost on folks just how difficult it it to draft a player who can be a 20 goal and 60 point player.

On one hand if you don't have any picks you can't ever draft somebody who hits that threshold or better. On the other having 6 picks in the first two rounds in a weaker draft class and all of them are after pick 15 you're lucky to find 2 players who play 200 games for your franchise. If you hit that fans still lament that you screwed the pooch in that draft if you didn't get any elite talent if those guys end up as a 25 goal winger and a 4th defenseman.

I think it's a major reason why teams have a hard time getting out of this middle tier. If you do draft well, you stay there, but can't get that elite talent to break out. If you draft poorly...well you fall back to where you have a chance to draft in the top 10.

That is why Utah and the Isles winning the lottery is so massive. The flames are a bubble team but adding a guy like Desnoyers/Hagens would've pushed them so far ahead in the rebuild without having to truly bottom out

[Paulie Walnuts]

The Flames drafted Coronato 24 goals and Zary 41 point pace probably higher if he didn’t get badly injured.

We already have frost and Rossi got demoted in the playoffs by a team starved for offence.

Just because of a season that finished above expectations and having an extra pick doesn’t make the Flsmes players for mid players.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I think Pettersen for Rossi makes a ton of sense. Minnesota is on the verge of being an elite team. Yurov and Buium is some serious talent being added to an already good team. Pettersen is an upgrade on Rossi and Pettersen and Kaprizov gives you a chance at an elite line. Add Boldy to that line, that could be the best line in the league.

I just don’t think it makes sense for the Canucks