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Old 06-08-2025, 03:51 PM   #16241
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I wonder if they’re going for Pettersson? Maybe grab Boeser to play with him too.
If you are looking for an upgrade at C, these are not the Cs you are looking for *waves hand*
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Old 06-08-2025, 03:58 PM   #16242
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Old 06-08-2025, 05:28 PM   #16243
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Hot take maybe but I'd rather Rossi than Pettersson.
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Hot take maybe but I'd rather Rossi than Pettersson.
I think most would want that. I hate Pettersson at that cap hit
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Old 06-08-2025, 06:18 PM   #16245
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So what center better than Rossi are likely on the trade market? And I mean better considering age, performance, and likely salary demands?
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Old 06-08-2025, 06:26 PM   #16246
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I'd rather draft our own C than settle for Rossi and stay mid.
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It's funny reading/listening to other fan based podcasts via youtube also speculate how they can trade into the top 5.

Pittsburgh, Philly, Nashville to name a few.
All with high hopes of trading for the 2nd OA pick.
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I'd rather draft our own C than settle for Rossi and stay mid.
We already moved a 2nd for Frost and Farabee. That should be the last trade involving picks being moved out for players like that.

We should be accumulating not depleting. Only time picks and prospects move out is for 23 and under star players or when you are in a contention window to add a piece.

The talk of adding a Bourque or Rossi is nonsense. We need to stockpile picks that have value on the trade market.
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Old 06-08-2025, 07:27 PM   #16249
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I doubt trading Coleman is even on the radar. He has two seasons left, is a veteran presence the Flames like, he fills a role they dont have anyone else to fill, and he as a modified no trade. They also dont need the cap space and their winger depth isnt great.

If he wants out, a great offer is put on the table, or they are out by the deadline, then that changes things. Even then I think this is a 2026 summer conversation at the earliest.
I've heard it mentioned several times, including by Pat Steinberg, that Farabee is viewed as a Coleman replacement of sorts.

I think our winger depth isn't necessarily bad. We lack legit first liners but we have alot of 2nd and 3rd line calibre wingers with some still developing that could be more.

I just feel like him and Andersson are the most logical to trade. They both have solid league wide value, are older, have expiring contracts upcoming in the next 2 seasons and don't play C, our biggest positional weakness.

I feel like a winger is headed out the door. Lomberg is seen as a staple on the 4th line so who doesn't play when everyone is healthy?
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Coleman is right up there with Andersson imo as the next logical Flames targets.

Sure, he's an excellent veteran presence and has been an awesome Calgary Flame, but as has been mentioned, with Farabee being almost a perfect replacement for Coleman, while also considering what his value is likely viewed as around the league, it would be foolish for the Flames to not at the very least explore a trade for him.

There's not much reason to keep him around at this point, especially with Weegar already having the mantle as the perfect veteran to represent Calgary and bring the new kids along.

Keeping Coleman around, while his remaining two years is a very valuable contract, would just be silly unless the trade offers are insulting to the Flames.
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I think a Coleman trade is better suited for the deadline, a hockey trade with picks or younger players for a 33 yr old rarely if ever happen before then.
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I'd rather draft our own C than settle for Rossi and stay mid.
The Flames likely need both a 1 and 2c long term
If you can love your pick this year, in a bad draft, for a young player the quality of Rossi you at least think about it
The chances they get a player that good at 18 is slim
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The Flames likely need both a 1 and 2c long term
If you can love your pick this year, in a bad draft, for a young player the quality of Rossi you at least think about it
The chances they get a player that good at 18 is slim
Slim left town a long long time ago if any fan thinks our 18th overall pick will be better than Rossi.
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Slim left town a long long time ago if any fan thinks our 18th overall pick will be better than Rossi.
No kidding. Clearly the Flames would have to add as the kid has two 20 goal seasons at the age of 23. That’s the type of production you hope from a kid drafted in the top 10 of an NHL draft.

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The Flames likely need both a 1 and 2c long term
If you can love your pick this year, in a bad draft, for a young player the quality of Rossi you at least think about it
The chances they get a player that good at 18 is slim
Agreed.

If Rossi was a recently drafted prospect and you knew he would become a 60 point center by the age of 23 and several more years or prime, he'd pretty easily be the best forward prospect in the Flames cabinet at the moment and likely better than anything you could hope to get at 18th OA. 60 point centers are just not typically available at that point in the draft.

I get that if the issue is not wanting a player that just keeps us in the mushy middle and the hope is to bottom out and draft a center in the top 10 or top 5 of next year's draft. That would make sense. But expecting that to happen with the picks we have right now is setting one's self up for disappointment.

I would personally prefer to bottom out and get some really high picks, but I don't think that is going to happen, therefore you might as well try getting top 10 drafted young talent through trades if possible. May Rossi isn't that guy, but if all it costs is the 18th OA, I'd like to find out.
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Toronto - eff off Treliving, unless you’re parting with Knies or Cowan+.
Carolina - multiple 1sts, good prospect pool too.
STL - hard to figure out with them, but I guess their 1st+? I’d want Dvorsky but doubt that happens.
LA - are they not happy with Clarke? Greentree+ maybe? Not sure they’re a good fit.
SJ - plenty of appealing assets, I think they’d overpay in picks and a decent prospect
WSH - shoot for Cristall. Doubt they move Leonard or Hutson
Utah - Obviously 4th OA would be the goal. If not 4th OA try to grab Tij. Would be a hard sell but he did lose a year of development and Utah doesn’t seem like they want to wait.
EDM - lmao, **** off.
While we patiently wait for the hockey news draft preview to hit the newsstands, wonder if Conny can channel his inner Coates and pull off an iginla type deal for Andersson. Believe Andersson has the most value of all the players that Conny has dealt as he was hamstrung by players being selective on teams they would sign extensions with (Hanifin) or players who started the season and were pure rentals.

Agree that Edmonton is extremely unlikely to happen and probably Toronto as well given the lack of firsts. And Utah surely won’t be trading the 4th overall for Rasmus.

Presuming Conny targets a 2025 pick (which should be easier to shake loose from the suitors), this leaves the following teams

St Louis - 19th overall
LA - 24th overall
Wash - 27th overall
Carolina - 29th overall
Sj - 30th overall

Then it all comes down to the player/prospect that the teams are prepared to part with. Ideally a C but could use a D as well.

Carolina lacks decent C prospects and doubt they would part with Nikishin or Morrow. Plus they need to strengthen their offence as the rantanen deal didn’t work out. Expect they will look to solidify up front first.

LA. No decent C prospects to speak of. Unlikely to trade Clarke and a first for Andersson. D prospects after Clarke are pretty mid and more project types

Washington. No C prospects of note. Hutson is a smallish defenseman which we seems to be steering clear of. Other D prospects are of the shutdown variety, believe we would be looking for more.

Stl - don’t think Dvorsky plus a first will interest them. But Jiracek could be a solid add on d and as sofa GM pointed out, Stenberg could be a find at C. Lindstein has potential at D and maybe Zach Bokduc and Zach Dean as potential Cs.

SJ - assuming they would part with the 30th overall (and given that they are likely to be lottery picks for the next few years). So the add should be good. Edstrom and/or Bystedt (thanks again Sofa GM) could be interesting a C adds, and Sahlin Wallenius could be a good add as D.

So have to agree with sofa gm, StL and sj would appear to have the best trade chips for an Andersson deal.
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Old 06-08-2025, 10:48 PM   #16257
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Not a rumor but if the Flames could trade Huberdeau ++ for Pettersson and the ++ isn't outrageous I'd be all for it.

Yes there are risks with Pettersson and his contract and it seems the whole world is down on him but i think it's exactly the right time to buy low on him and it's more likely he rebounds to a high end #1C that he was showing himself to be for the vast majority of his career.

Given the state of the Flames roster and unlikelihood of having a top 5 pick anytime soon this seems like the best realistic swing on getting that necessary top line C (who is only 26) and if you can somehow unload Huberdeau in the deal it diminishes the contract risk significantly.
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Not a rumor but if the Flames could trade Huberdeau ++ for Pettersson and the ++ isn't outrageous I'd be all for it.

Yes there are risks with Pettersson and his contract and it seems the whole world is down on him but i think it's exactly the right time to buy low on him and it's more likely he rebounds to a high end #1C that he was showing himself to be for the vast majority of his career.

Given the state of the Flames roster and unlikelihood of having a top 5 pick anytime soon this seems like the best realistic swing on getting that necessary top line C (who is only 26) and if you can somehow unload Huberdeau in the deal it diminishes the contract risk significantly.
I think the ++ would have to be damn significant.
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Patterson warts are significant for a guy being paid what he gets. Bad attitude poor work ethic and seems like an overall dink that can ruin locker rooms.

You don’t often hear a coach say a 12M player needs to work on a lot in the offseason.
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Not interested in Pettersson, whatsoever. Not the type of player you win a cup with. Not to mention, we aren't a Petterson away from being a contender.

I'm hoping we offload some players, and add picks and prospects. I would be open to trading any and all of Andersson, Kadri, Coleman, Backlund.
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