01-21-2019, 03:06 PM
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#1601
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Originally Posted by Locke
This Province wasnt 'Too Conservative' to Elect them in the first place, but somehow magically the Demographic has shifted wildly in the last 4 years?
Then again, not taking responsibility is pretty much the NDP M.O.
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You do realize much of the votes were split between the PC's and the Wildrose, right?
NDP squeezed through between two hapless and warring parties, feuding over which Con party was best Con party.
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01-21-2019, 03:15 PM
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#1602
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
You do realize much of the votes were split between the PC's and the Wildrose, right?
NDP squeezed through between two hapless and warring parties, feuding over which Con party was best Con party.
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Which made Notley an Accidental Premier. One and done.
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01-21-2019, 03:17 PM
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#1603
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broke the first rule
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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
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I was thinking the battle between her and Sonya Savage, the UCP candidate, was going to be particularly interesting. Savage seems like a strong candidate, and Jansen, despite everything, is a high profile candidate.
For me, I'd rather see the NDP going down swinging. Make the UCP work to get elected instead of just giving up like we're seeing.
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01-21-2019, 03:19 PM
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#1604
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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If you read the tweets from various NDP MLA's the focus is all on Kenney with attempts to demonise him at every opportunity. That seems to be the plan of Notley with hopes the average Albertans will buy her lies and half truths.
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01-21-2019, 03:21 PM
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#1605
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Originally Posted by Dion
Which made Notley an Accidental Premier. One and done.
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Who's fault is it the NDP got in the first place? Pretty sure most Albertans didn't intend for that to happen. It was very Ed Stelmach-ish.
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01-21-2019, 03:22 PM
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#1606
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Barnet - North London
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Originally Posted by Locke
Evidently not.
This Province wasnt 'Too Conservative' to Elect them in the first place, but somehow magically the Demographic has shifted wildly in the last 4 years?
Then again, not taking responsibility is pretty much the NDP M.O.
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I’m an outsider here, but my understanding was that the Conservative vote was split and the NDP drove up the middle.
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01-21-2019, 03:32 PM
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#1607
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
Neither.
The NDP has done a good enough to deserve a 2nd term but the fact is this province is so conservative there was almost nothing they could do to get re-elected
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sorry, but what good have they done? a useless carbon tax?
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01-21-2019, 03:32 PM
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#1608
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
You do realize much of the votes were split between the PC's and the Wildrose, right?
NDP squeezed through between two hapless and warring parties, feuding over which Con party was best Con party.
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Okay, and yet somehow despite this calamity of errors working in their favour you would defend WhiteOut's position that they did a sufficiently exemplary job to 'deserve a second term?'
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01-21-2019, 03:38 PM
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#1609
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Who's fault is it the NDP got in the first place? Pretty sure most Albertans didn't intend for that to happen. It was very Ed Stelmach-ish.
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Be interesting to see some numbers on this but there were lot's of people who voted PC all their lives that voted NDP last time, simply to see the PC's in the penalty box for a term.
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01-21-2019, 03:39 PM
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#1610
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Dion
If you read the tweets from various NDP MLA's the focus is all on Kenney with attempts to demonise him at every opportunity. That seems to be the plan of Notley with hopes the average Albertans will buy her lies and half truths.
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Did they make up him claiming his mother’s basement as his primary residence in order to get a publicly funded allowance?
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01-21-2019, 03:41 PM
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Originally Posted by Locke
Okay, and yet somehow despite this calamity of errors working in their favour you would defend WhiteOut's position that they did a sufficiently exemplary job to 'deserve a second term?'
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Nope. You said this province wasn't too conservative to elect them in the first place. I'm saying that was the case, as the majority of Albertans who voted did so for a right-wing party. Vote-splitting caused the NDP to win.
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01-21-2019, 03:49 PM
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#1612
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Who's fault is it the NDP got in the first place? Pretty sure most Albertans didn't intend for that to happen. It was very Ed Stelmach-ish.
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Better question is finding someone who will admit to voting NDP.
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01-21-2019, 03:55 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
Neither.
The NDP has done a good enough to deserve a 2nd term but the fact is this province is so conservative there was almost nothing they could do to get re-elected
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They deserve to be tossed for the epic screw up on the power-purchase agreements alone. A self-inflicted error in their rush to be green, which cost taxpayers billions.
Not to mention the cringe-worthy "enron clause!" conspiracy theory and lawsuit that followed.
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01-21-2019, 03:56 PM
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi
Did they make up him claiming his mother’s basement as his primary residence in order to get a publicly funded allowance?
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Should we not wait for the truth before making accusations?
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01-21-2019, 04:08 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Dion
If you read the tweets from various NDP MLA's the focus is all on Kenney with attempts to demonise him at every opportunity. That seems to be the plan of Notley with hopes the average Albertans will buy her lies and half truths.
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Essentially the same game plan used against many right leaning candidates - both in Canada and south of the border. Hardly a new idea but it does carry traction with some voters. In Alberta we've seen evidence of this for at least a year now.
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01-21-2019, 04:39 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi
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Really, would it make you feel any better if he rented someone's else's apartment or basement suite to sit empty while he was a federal cabinet minister? You want to dictate people's living quarters? How very socialist of you.
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01-21-2019, 04:41 PM
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#1618
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Norm!
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I expect that the Friends of Alberta's Nurses. Friends of teachers, friends of healthcare and all of those other union backed third party groups are heading to the studios.
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01-21-2019, 05:16 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi
Did they make up him claiming his mother’s basement as his primary residence in order to get a publicly funded allowance?
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If Kenney wins, Calgarians will have both a mayor and a premier who are confirmed bachelors living with their mothers. We just need another McKenzie King in Ottawa for the trifecta.
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01-21-2019, 05:18 PM
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#1620
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GaiJin
Really, would it make you feel any better if he rented someone's else's apartment or basement suite to sit empty while he was a federal cabinet minister? You want to dictate people's living quarters? How very socialist of you.
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Kenney could live in a van down by the river for all I care. The issue isn’t the type of property he resides in. The issue is that he was claiming his mother’s basement as his primary residence to get a taxpayer funded allowance when it’s clear he wasn’t, you know, primarily residing there. How fiscally conservative of me to take issue with that.
You’d think that the former president and CEO of the Canadian Taxpayer Federation, as well as the majority of “fiscally conservative” posters here would have an issue with this sort of thing but here we are.
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