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Old 10-09-2016, 02:54 PM   #1581
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I'd be more afraid of the family being there if I were Gross, actually. I'd want to be the only one in Johnny's ear.
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This contract needs to be long term, because I can't imagine going through this again with Gaudreau in 2-3 years.
I would think that if it's this much of a sacrifice for him to sign here, this is the last contract he has with the Flames either way.
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I am okay with this. Gaudreau's family has raised 4 great humble successful children.
Have you meet all four or something? What an awkwardly creepy thing to say.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:05 PM   #1584
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Papa Gaudreau: Johnny, take the damn 7/49.
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I'd be more afraid of the family being there if I were Gross, actually. I'd want to be the only one in Johnny's ear.
I would suggest it is equally annoying for both the Flames and Gross.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:09 PM   #1586
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I really don't fault anyone here but I really wish gaudreau had just canned the "awe shucks" crap earlier this summer.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:15 PM   #1587
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Hate to say it but the last time I recall a family being involved like that was Lindros. Bobby Clarke had to deal with Momma and Poppa Lindros all the time. If memory serves Poppa actually became his agent in later stages of his career.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:16 PM   #1588
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I really don't fault anyone here but I really wish gaudreau had just canned the "awe shucks" crap earlier this summer.
People keep saying that, but exactly how did he do that. I never had a negative perception of JG, still don't, this is all business. But I also never associated him with a choire boy personna or with any sort of "awe schuks" kind of image.

I've kind of always thought of him as a really confident guy who actually thinks quiet highly of himself (and that's a good thing) with a bit of a partying problem.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:18 PM   #1589
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Mr. Gaudreau had the kid in skates at the age of 2. Go back to the Players Tribune article and see how many times the father is mentioned. Never in my life have I read so many articles about a player that mentions his mom and dad being so upset because they have to stay up late to watch games, or are miss games, or travel to the games. It's weird. I said it a few days ago and I'll say it again - my money is on the probability that Dad is running this show.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:31 PM   #1590
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This is not surprising or unexpected at all particularly given the family's involvement last time. There is no way he signs a contract like this without direct input from his parents. I wouldn't be surprised if dad was on every call and in every meeting with Gross. There might have even been calls and meetings between Gross and mom and dad without JG.

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Old 10-09-2016, 03:32 PM   #1591
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I owe gaudreauvertime an apology. They did indeed meet with the family.

But I still hate your posting style.
No need to apologize. I thought that info had gone public when I said it, guess I was wrong.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:33 PM   #1592
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No need to apologize. I thought that info had gone public when I said it, guess I was wrong.
Well that's an interesting little blooper.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:36 PM   #1593
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Well that's an interesting little blooper.
Indeed. My suspicious are sharpened immensely, if not verified yet.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:38 PM   #1594
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What a dramatic jumping to of conclusions! So much handwringing!
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:39 PM   #1595
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This is not surprising or unexpected at all particularly given the family's involvement last time. There is no way he signs a contract like this without direct input from his parents. I wouldn't be surprised if dad was on every call and in every meeting with Gross. There might have even been calls and meetings between Gross and mom and dad without JG.
I agree and have no problem with that, provided dad is negotiating for what Johnny wants, not just what he wants.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:46 PM   #1596
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After reading through this thread and a few others on CP I can only imagine that the crack business has seen a massive spike in sales over the last couple of weeks.
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:48 PM   #1597
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Some day, many generation from this one, a future civilization will be learning of our society and some kid will ask "how did a civilization as great as that one perish."

The teacher, prepared for the obvious question, will bring out a picture of Trump, a copy of the latest Lady Gaga song, and a transcript of this thread. The kid will understand.
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Inviting the family could've been a strategic move on the Flamed part as much as from their end. There's been much speculation here that Gross' ask is unreasonable and that Gross has much self interest in this contract. The Gaudreau's have been very reasonable and supportive from what I've heard from his initial contract and leaving college. It seems to me entirely plausible that the Flames might hope they would see that the Flames contract stance is reasonable and the agent is asking for something unreasonable that will never happen.

Just trying to show another potential viewpoint on the family meeting since we likely will never know why.
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Well that's an interesting little blooper.
He's still running a con. Don't fall for it.
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Old 10-09-2016, 04:20 PM   #1600
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Ugh Johnny.. don't involve the family. It's your career and your contract. This is when you take control or your own affairs as an individual adult. I really don't know if it's wise to involve a family in things that involve astronomical amounts of money when coming from middle class income. Feelings and irrationality can run high in these sorts of situation. That is why you don't do it. Just adding all sorts of unnecessary stresses and pressure.
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