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Old 12-20-2007, 12:02 PM   #141
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The ladder theory is the fast track method to landing yourself a gold digging princess. Women of substance don't meet the narrow definitions that the LT uses to base it's guidance on. Unless you want a trophy wife, stay away from the LT.

Just my thoughts.
Sort of OT, as I've read a bit of LT, and I am wondering where the narrow definitions are in LT. Sure it may state what IP's are, and allow you to see the 2 separate lists that some women have, but I thought the main concentration for the users of LT is pretty much self-improvement so that they are moving away from being beta males and are able to assert themselves always.

Anyways, most of the games used in LT are for breaking down the inevitable walls that "women of substance" have anyways.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:01 PM   #142
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Slippery slope there my friend.
Your friendship could be affected. Since there will be the cloud of you wanting more, and her just wanting a friend hanging over it.
On the other side, a lot of successful relationships have blossomed from being friends first.

I personally have not successfully accomplished this task. You could always try asking her out on a real "date". See what she says, if she says no, just drop it, and move on.

You could start dating one of her smoking hot friends, or at least inquire about said friend. And see how she reacts. If she acts jealous, then you may have a way in there.

Other than that.. not sure exactly.
I really like the inquiring about one of her friends idea. To me if she does not act jealous in any way when you ask her about it then forget the idea altogether. Without her knowing you'll be able to make a decision about what to do.

That or read the Game by Neil Strauss.....apparently it works wonders.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:03 PM   #143
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What the hell is LT?
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:06 PM   #144
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What the hell is LT?
It's ladder theory. Really, it should be taught in some form or another in school to young boys who are apt to have their hearts broken.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:11 PM   #145
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I was going to guess love triangle. That a-hole Jerry Springer permanantly warped me.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:18 PM   #146
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It seems to me that the best course of action is to give it a shot. There is one girl who until I got married I regretted not taking a shot. We were pretty good friends, not best friends, but pretty close. I never took the shot and then ended up moving across the country. I always held a candle for her so to speak even though it was damn near impossible to try since I lived in ONtario and she was back in Calgary.

As I said, I am happily married now and don't regret not trying anymore, but part of me still wonders what would have happened.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:20 PM   #147
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Just do the high school thing and get someone else to ask what she thinks about you now, and as a potential bf, then proceed accordingly.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:25 PM   #148
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Here's my story:

I went to SAIT a few years back, and I ended up in a class with this hot looking girl. I ended up sitting next to her and found out that we had several classes together. Well, we became friends, and at the end of the 1st semester, we became really good friends. However, I knew she had a boyfriend, but I was very attracted to this girl. So I never entertained any thoughts romantically, and we just maintained a really good friendship.

However, 2nd semester rolled around, and one night I was walking her to her class... and somehow the conversation turned to boobs (don't ask me how) and hers... Well, we ended up in the elevator, and she goes, "go ahead and grab one, I don't care, I don't get what the big deal is about them." I said "huh?" Anyways, I was being a good boy, and I didn't grope her, but we ended up just outside her class, and I gave her hug and left. The next day she tells me that she wants to kiss me... Well I obliged, and ultimately ended up the "friends with benefits" zone. And what a wonderful place to be! It was pretty cool - we had fun in empty classrooms and reading rooms in the library

Enevitably, the "friends with benefits" zone had to stop, and eventually we are no longer friends. It's too bad, because we were very good friends at the start - but I tell you, "friends with benefits" definetly is an awesome place to be.

I just realized this, but this story isn't the only time I've had a friend that was a girl encourage me to grope her after talking about boobs.

Moral of the story, if you want to get out of the friends zone, talk about boobs to your friends. This piece of advice will get you out of the friend zone... one way or the other. Plus, boobs are always a good conversation topic.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:29 PM   #149
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Here's my story:

and I didn't grope her,
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:41 PM   #150
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I like boobs.
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:45 PM   #151
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she told me that things were getting too complicated with us because she didn't know what exactly she wanted
translation: "I'm bangin some dude"
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:48 PM   #152
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translation: "I'm bangin some dude"
Not necessarily. Maybe she just bought herself a vibratron 6000 and wanted some "time to herself"...
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:48 PM   #153
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seriously tho, tell her you want to go ATM with her
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Old 12-20-2007, 01:57 PM   #154
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However, 2nd semester rolled around, and one night I was walking her to her class... and somehow the conversation turned to boobs (don't ask me how) and hers... Well, we ended up in the elevator, and she goes, "go ahead and grab one, I don't care, I don't get what the big deal is about them." I said "huh?" Anyways, I was being a good boy, and I didn't grope her, but we ended up just outside her class, and I gave her hug and left. I was worried about your story at this point....The next day she tells me that she wants to kiss me... Well I obliged, and ultimately ended up the "friends with benefits" zone. And what a wonderful place to be! It was pretty cool - we had fun in empty classrooms and reading rooms in the library
But it ended well, leaving me a lot less disappointed...good work man!
Come to think of it the girl that I was making out with the other night and I were talking about boobs about a week ago....have we found the elusive piece of the puzzle that creates friends with benefits!!!?
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:04 PM   #155
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So do you know what you're going to do yet?
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:48 PM   #156
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Wow, lots of negative nancy's replying to the original post.

If she says no, it won't ruin your friendship unless you let it ruin the friendship. I had been best friends with a girl my whole life, seriously....from age 5 till now. We grew up together, were in the same class, her dad coached our hockey team and she was even on my line! After we graduated I started to like her, a lot, and we were spending a lot of time together. I eventually told her that I liked her and I wanted to know where this was heading, and she said "Really? I'm so sorry....I had no idea. I don't think of us like that"....it sucked, but I didn't let it bother me. I seen her the next day and pretended it never happened, so did she. We're still great friends today, nothing has changed. I've got a girlfriend, she's got a boyfriend, everyone's happy.

I just wanted to say that it doesn't have to ruin your friendship. It didn't affect mine.
Except that you cry yourself to sleep every night with the sting of unrequited love.
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:56 PM   #157
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Not necessarily. Maybe she just bought herself a vibratron 6000 and wanted some "time to herself"...
or a Sybian
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:00 PM   #158
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seriously tho, tell her you want to go ATM with her
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:34 PM   #159
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Dick in a box? Or did you already get her a Xmas gift?



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But it ended well, leaving me a lot less disappointed...good work man!
Come to think of it the girl that I was making out with the other night and I were talking about boobs about a week ago....have we found the elusive piece of the puzzle that creates friends with benefits!!!?
who doesn't love boobs??
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