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Old 08-14-2006, 12:46 PM   #141
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Nah. Canadians have a history of being critical of the U.S. that pre-dates the modern day conflicts with extremists. The day that extremists are able to dictate to us how we should think and react to American foreign policy will be a sad day indeed.

Appreciation for something that most of the world told them not to do? Appreciation for making the world a more dangerous place by invading Iraq?
Canadian colonists did light the White house one fire twice. It's use to be the pink house until they white washed it.
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Old 08-14-2006, 12:52 PM   #142
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Canadian colonists did light the White house one fire twice. It's use to be the pink house until they white washed it.
No, that was the British.
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Old 08-14-2006, 12:57 PM   #143
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Oh thats bright.

So they should just keep bombing and bombing the sh*t out of innocent people and their homes just on the off chance their might be a few rockets destroyed in the process?

As for "these countries" what countries are you talking about? Maybe you don't know much about the middle east or Lebanon in general but it happens to be a free Democratic country. When you say freedom of religion i know what your getting at though. You dont believe that Islam is a legitimate religion and it should be christianity or bust right? I've got news for you pal 30% of Lebanese citizens ARE Christians.

http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQ...banonIndex.htm

You call that no religous freedom?

I have read this thread and I know your just skirting around the fact that you do in fact believe Islam in its entirty is wrong and that Israel should "keep going". Try looking at things from both sides before jumping to rash generalizations.
I was aware that Lebanon had a strong Christian minority. I've also read that they were forcefully keeping Hezbolah rocket launchers out of their areas. The fact that Lebanon has multiple religious representation and have to a degree been able to live together is promising.

I do question your characterization of Lebanon as a democracy. If that is true then none of the Lebanese people are innocent because they have started an unprovoked war with Israel. The fact of the matter is that Hezbolah is in control of a good portion of the country. It is not Lebanon but, rather Hezbolah central. Hezbolah goal is the destruction of Israel. Israel's only practical solution is the destruction of all Hezbolah capabilities.

If Hezbolah choses to hide behind their women and children then their women and children should die with them. As long as we allow them to escape by using this tactic suffering will continue on both sides. When they learn that hiding behind their citizens won't help them they will move away from their own population centers. Where Israel failed in Lebanon was in their restraint. You don't shorten a fight by pulling your punches.
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Old 08-14-2006, 01:07 PM   #144
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I've also read that they were forcefully keeping Hezbolah rocket launchers out of their areas.
Oh, you're going to have to back that one up. Link please.

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The fact that Lebanon has multiple religious representation and have to a degree been able to live together is promising.
And they have been for a hundreds of years. This is not just a sudden development.

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I do question your characterization of Lebanon as a democracy. If that is true then none of the Lebanese people are innocent because they have started an unprovoked war with Israel. The fact of the matter is that Hezbolah is in control of a good portion of the country. It is not Lebanon but, rather Hezbolah central. Hezbolah goal is the destruction of Israel. Israel's only practical solution is the destruction of all Hezbolah capabilities.
The people select who they think will fight their battles for them.

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If Hezbolah choses to hide behind their women and children then their women and children should die with them. As long as we allow them to escape by using this tactic suffering will continue on both sides. When they learn that hiding behind their citizens won't help them they will move away from their own population centers. Where Israel failed in Lebanon was in their restraint. You don't shorten a fight by pulling your punches.
And Israel hides behind America and all the free weapons they get. I wonder how things would be if all the countries of the region were free to support who they wanted to and GIVE weapons to who they wished to?
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Old 08-14-2006, 01:41 PM   #145
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Have you also visited native reserves across Canada?

There really isn't a point to arguing which country has the poorest poor. Every country has very rich and very poor people. The divide is definately greater in some countries (US for sure), but it still exists everywhere you go. Spending billions (or trillions) of dollars on poverty-stricken areas in the country instead of national defence isn't going to solve every problem either.
I am not relating this information based on my experience, but I have a friend who has done major amounts of work on Native reserves around Calgary. Her opinions are based on working with both the rich (Cheif) and the poor.

Her experiences are that the reserves have massive amounts of money. They are willing though, to let their people spend their lives in relative poverty in order to not have to spend their money, on building supplies for new homes, repairing roads, developing land etc and be taxed on the money they spend.

They are NOT taxed on the money they receive, but they do pay taxes when they buy certain goods (some are native tax exempt and some are not).
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