Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.
As referenced in this thread there are tons of people who love this but at its core is it right?
The answer is a resounding "no".
This just proves everything the president has been saying the past 4 years.
Yes.
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Trump isn't going to create his own Twitter or TV network, we know he's terrible at actually building anything. He'll just license his name to Parler or Newsmax/OANN, which is how he's made most of his money anyway. I mean we see the losers he surrounds himself with, doing Trump Twitter from scratch is costly and likely to end poorly. Much easier to just slap your name on something someone else did (and of course it's remarkably on brand for Trump).
I agree on Trump probably not building his own. Right now there's probably going to be a limbo about anyone starting or heavily investing in new social media companies until we see the fall-out from social media's role in these riots. If there's talk about repealling or seriously adjusting section 230 to make social media companies more liable for content posted on their platforms, it could radically alter the state of the social media landscape and make any social media platform catering to alt-right communities the worst investment imaginable.
It's also difficult to imagine how and alt-right-focused social media platform would make money; any advertiser is going to get boycotted by the mainstream, so it's always just going to be niche advertising at best. App-sales are fine, but they're a one-time cost. Are they going to make it subscription-based? Maybe simply selling user-information?
Though I like imagining Trump investing heavily in his own social media platform for his community, and then the government repealling section 230, and Trump getting sued every time one of his fans posts a violent threat.
Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.
As referenced in this thread there are tons of people who love this but at its core is it right?
The answer is a resounding "no".
This just proves everything the president has been saying the past 4 years.
If he wants to say something, he can just walk out onto his lawn. The only thing this is limiting him from doing is talking while pooping. It's about motivation... Is he motivated enough to talk to you to stop pooping? The truth is, I don't think he cares that much. If he can't take a dump while speaking to you, what's the point?
Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.
As referenced in this thread there are tons of people who love this but at its core is it right?
The answer is a resounding "no".
This just proves everything the president has been saying the past 4 years.
It really doesn't. What it proves is that inciting and stoking aggression and violence on government institutions and fellow citizens has consequences. It's simply not allowable in this day and age. Trump was more than free to debate others in whatever civil or petty manner he chose to, use every legal avenue under the sun to contest the alleged injustices, resolve his differences with discussion and even gather his supporters in a pandemic, but he chose the least civilized road possible, in a western democracy where these things are no longer acceptable or allowed because literally hundreds of years of progress were spent TO eliminate exactly this sort of political behavior.
When you use your freedoms this way you willingly choose to give up your freedom to be heard (through those platforms). There are very few restrictions, but the ones that do exist are clear. Trump should've thought about that before telling his crowds to march on the capitol. He's 100% responsible for his fate here, and he gave the social media platforms no other choice. They cannot be complicit in providing a medium where he can encourage these demonstrations where property is damaged, and people get hurt and killed.
This is the 21st century western world. It's #####ing 1+1, elementary, simple ####. He failed to comprehend it.
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it's a resounding "yes" and I will never understand how some people will happily hide behind the concept of free speech to justify lies, hate and agitation. Nauseating.
The same people that scream "FAKE NEWS" over reporters as they do their jobs also have the utmost credibility when it comes to the topic of censorship.
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Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.
As referenced in this thread there are tons of people who love this but at its core is it right?
The answer is a resounding "no".
This just proves everything the president has been saying the past 4 years.
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So now the bigger question...
Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.
As referenced in this thread there are tons of people who love this but at its core is it right?
The answer is a resounding "yes".
This just proves everything the president has been saying the past 4 years.
FYP.
You cannot spread hate, fear and violence.....that's just part of being allowed to use that platform. He is not entitled to it "just because".
Besides, Im not sure what he will have to say that matters any more. He is finished as President or any other office in the future and i am not sure what he would have to say sitting in his cell in Leavenworth down the road. So really no big deal.
There is still a very wide chasm between what Trump supporters see as free speech violations and what is actually free speech guaranteed to citizens under the constitution.
He isn’t going to jail, or being arrested, or deported, for what he said, he lost his privilege to use a private company’s messaging platform for violation of its terms of service. Nothing in the constitution says a US President should have unfettered access to private companies products.
Thanks for posting that, i usually like his takes but that one was weak
Banning Trump divides instead of heals? Trump and the MAGA crowd has no interest in healing or coming together. And to be honest, neither do the Democrats anymore.
There will be two separate conversations, on their Twitter and on our Twitter and that's how we'll get another Trump? We wound up with Trump by having separate conversations on the same Twitter. Nothing has changed.
Banning him gives Trump a victory? Id argue that it kicks him when he's down and gives him another loss. For better or worse.
There's no right answer on dealing with Trump and his little trumpets. Everything is a lose-lose scenario. Turn the other cheek? They're emboldened. Fight fire with fire? They enraged. Calmly state the truth? They scream conspiracy theories back at you.
Twitter banning Trump doesn't move the needle. America's politics is broken. America's society is broken. For everyone except the 1%, America's economy is broken. America is broken.
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It will take the righties months to scrape together a half functional social media platform, and even then it will be considered a political 4chan / conspiracy board / that cesspool corner of the internet you go to for comedy.
Between now and then Trump is muted. He can't rile millions up at the flick of his feeble wrist with misinformation posts and hearsay BS. There may be outrage from that crowd for a week or two but I think it will allow things to simmer down significantly just because there will be no content to latch on to. For a while at least this will be a win.
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Doesn't look like it. Not sure that he's getting out his message anywhere at the moment.
(Not on Parler but occasionally I'll check out the 'Parlerwatch' subreddit, which includes people monitoring parler for noteworthy posts including those by public figures.)
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Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.
As referenced in this thread there are tons of people who love this but at its core is it right?
The answer is a resounding "no".
This just proves everything the president has been saying the past 4 years.
So, its true. His inauguration crowd was the biggest ever!
Where is Trump spewing his hate BS now? Parler? I’m not there and have no intention of going over.
I just went to browse Parler to see what kind of train wreck it is. I can't actually get in though. There's no search without an account. So it's not like twitter where your stuff ends up everywhere, it seems to be locked in.
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