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Old 01-09-2021, 09:05 AM   #121
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Shouldn’t you have to be a named terrorist organization before ISPs take action? It does bring up a whole discussion of how right wing terrorism organizations aren’t labeled as terrorists but I’m not sure ISPs/Facebook/Apple/Google should be the ones with the authority to declare who is and isn’t a terrorist.
Dude, you can’t act like they just arbitrarily decided to ban him.

Had they gotten their hands on Pence, Pelosi or Schumer, they were going to publicly execute them. They said it, they chanted it, they invaded the Capitol - you really wanna argue they were just jokes?

This is where we are.
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Old 01-09-2021, 09:09 AM   #122
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Trump isn't going to create his own Twitter or TV network, we know he's terrible at actually building anything. He'll just license his name to Parler or Newsmax/OANN, which is how he's made most of his money anyway. I mean we see the losers he surrounds himself with, doing Trump Twitter from scratch is costly and likely to end poorly. Much easier to just slap your name on something someone else did (and of course it's remarkably on brand for Trump).

I also think, with Rush Limbaugh all but dead, that Trump is the natural successor there and that's an easy job for Trump. Ramble and engage with his cult for three hours a day, golf and #### porn skanks the rest of the day, make $75 million a year. He doesn't even have to leave Mar-A-Lago to do it.
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Old 01-09-2021, 09:37 AM   #123
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What does breaking up Twitter or Facebook even look like?

Break Twitter up into 4 companies with max tweet length 70 characters each
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Easiest is to break out Facebook from Instagram and WhatsApp and whatever all the other things they own now are.

But yeah for Twitter what do you do? Just split it into a bunch of different companies that do the same thing? TwitterA-F, TwitterG-S, TwitterT-Z?

Maybe something like opening up Twitter streams to and from other apps so it is an ecosystem?
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Old 01-09-2021, 09:52 AM   #125
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And Springs1 threads.
I'd pay CP a subscription to read Trump and Springs go at it.
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Break up Twitter?

Twitter is not one of the names commonly mentioned when 'breaking up tech firms' is brought up. It's Facebook, Amazon, Apple, and Google. Genuinely curious, in what way does Twitter need to be broken up?
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Old 01-09-2021, 10:56 AM   #127
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Breaking up tech firms won't actually accomplish anything. If you break up facebook into four different "facebooks", the market will just decide which of those four is "the new facebook", and the other three will fail. And then you'll just have facebook again, with a different name. That's how tech businesses work. No one uses the second best version of eBay.
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Breaking up tech firms won't actually accomplish anything. If you break up facebook into four different "facebooks", the market will just decide which of those four is "the new facebook", and the other three will fail. And then you'll just have facebook again, with a different name. That's how tech businesses work. No one uses the second best version of eBay.
I mean they did, and then eBay bought it.

Kijiji.
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Old 01-09-2021, 11:06 AM   #129
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Kijiji isn't an auction site. It was designed to compete with Craigslist. And I'm not sure who uses Craigslist anymore.

To be fair, Kijiji is actually one counterexample of a tech service that does have some limited competition, because Facebook Marketplace exists, but only because you can easily use both at the same time.
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Old 01-09-2021, 11:22 AM   #130
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Kijiji isn't an auction site. It was designed to compete with Craigslist. And I'm not sure who uses Craigslist anymore.

To be fair, Kijiji is actually one counterexample of a tech service that does have some limited competition, because Facebook Marketplace exists, but only because you can easily use both at the same time.
Kijiji was designed to compete with Craigslist, yes, but in a space that eBay had incidentally already moved into. Before Kijiji was born, eBay introduced 'Buy It Now' functionality, essentially making them an online classifieds (for goods only) and auction site. And truth be told, I can't remember the last time I bought something on eBay as an auction. If I want it, I either use 'Make an offer' or 'Buy it now'.

eBay also had eBay Motors, and then they bought AutoTrader.com.
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Don jr wants people to go to his website and give him your personal information. Quite the privacy policy disclaimer on that site loll
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Kijiji isn't an auction site. It was designed to compete with Craigslist. And I'm not sure who uses Craigslist anymore.

To be fair, Kijiji is actually one counterexample of a tech service that does have some limited competition, because Facebook Marketplace exists, but only because you can easily use both at the same time.
I think Craigslist is still really strong in the US. I don't believe they ever really made it into Canada.
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Craigslist is huge here in the USA, despite Kijiji being a far superior website. It just never took off in the USA for some reason.
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Kijiji isn't an auction site. It was designed to compete with Craigslist. And I'm not sure who uses Craigslist anymore.

To be fair, Kijiji is actually one counterexample of a tech service that does have some limited competition, because Facebook Marketplace exists, but only because you can easily use both at the same time.
Basically everyone? Outside of Canada east of the Rockies, Kijiji is more or less irrelevant.
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Old 01-09-2021, 12:11 PM   #135
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So now the bigger question...


Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.


As referenced in this thread there are tons of people who love this but at its core is it right?


The answer is a resounding "no".



This just proves everything the president has been saying the past 4 years.
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Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.

I guess we'll just go back to never knowing, seeing, or hearing what the President is saying and doing like we did with everybody before Obama.
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Nonsense. Twitter has decided, as a private company, that they are not obligated to carry the increasingly unhinged and manifestly dangerous ramblings of a petulant narcissist especially after warning said petulant narcissist of what consequences would obtain should there be further violations of their Terms of Service.
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it's a resounding "yes" and I will never understand how some people will happily hide behind the concept of free speech to justify lies, hate and agitation. Nauseating.
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So now the bigger question...


Where can us loyal Trump supporters go to hear the president now that they have effectively silenced his free speech by banning him from the biggest social media platform in the world.


As referenced in this thread there are tons of people who love this but at its core is it right?


The answer is a resounding "no".



This just proves everything the president has been saying the past 4 years.
You're officially my favourite deplorable. I shall name you CP's Number One Deplorable.
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I can say you're welcome in my home so long as you are respectful. If you come in and scream at my kid, I have every right to kick you out of my home.

By kicking you out of my home, I am, in no way what so ever, by any stretch of the imagination, silencing your free speech.

By violating terms and conditions of a private enterprise, the private enterprise terminating your use of their service, that again you agreed to abide by, is in no way violating your freedom of speech.

Trump's freedom of speech is ONLY violated if the government persecutes him. Even then, there are exceptions to free speech, such as inciting violence.
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